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marty 29th June 2013 02:48 PM

^
Uh? I don't see similarities between You&Me and We Found Love... Now I'm going to watch them again!XD

terra 29th June 2013 04:10 PM

^You & Me really reminds me of We Found Love even the musical direction albeit different but the two has sort of a similarity.

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 3011755)
http://jpoptrash.nihon-fr.com/copie/kylie.jpg

Just because she has pigtails -_-'

Ayu has used a similar outfit to that silver one Kylie is wearing, it's for Greatful days~evolution on A MUSEUM
http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/live/pa...l_days1001.jpg
credits from eneabba.net

And I believe two costumes from Kylie's Showgirl Tour are similar with two costumes in AT07

Love all of them though :yes it was nice I think for Ayu to adapted Kylie's because Kylie always wear nice elegant things for her concerts lol

NintendoHTF1242 30th June 2013 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CatGirl (Post 3011789)
I'm surprised that You & Me/We Found Love hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet >_> That's Ayu's worst offense when it comes to ~*inspiration from other artists*~ imo

There's nothing similar between the two...lol

~.:*:.YaSuMi.:*:.~ 30th June 2013 03:24 AM

The world is full of similarities.. Just because she uses a motorcycle doesn't mean she's copying without shame to others... well, I guess all humans do "copy" others ideas from time to time. Ayu has a very own style and she's not an exact copy of Madonna or Britney, copying all the videos, the identical songs, even the lyrics without shame, if she was and did that i would hate her.

What about the Kanariya video? Britney appeared with diamonds all over her body on the Toxic video too, that was several years after Kanariya. Before I used to think she was copying Ayu but that's so immature to think.. and if that was the case, who cares? they're different singers anyways.


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Originally Posted by terra (Post 3011820)
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1993bb8a.jpghttp://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7a72b0d5.jpg
Love all of them though :yes it was nice I think for Ayu to adapted Kylie's because Kylie always wear nice elegant things for her concerts lol


Yes it looks similar, but that's a costume. Costumes are for public use, they are not patented or exclusively of "X" singer.

terra 30th June 2013 05:16 AM

^Yes I know that, it's not belong to someone in fact it belongs to showgirl performers like those in Moulin Rouge etc. I don't blame ayu, it's just that based on the evidence of previous use of costume adaptations, those costumes ayu wore could possibly inspired by Kylie's tour.

happiholic★ 30th June 2013 05:54 AM

While I don't put it past Ayu to take, uh... ~inspiration~ from other artists, I think some things, like the costumes, are just coincidence. If I'm not mistaken, Kana Nishino wore a flowly green dress in one of her concerts. I don't think she stole it from Ayu. Its just an unoriginal dress. I say again: nothing is original in music anymore. And it doesn't seem that people are trying to change that, just putting their personal touch on the ideas that already exist.

CatGirl 30th June 2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 3011885)
There's nothing similar between the two...lol

OK lmao. The buildup to the choruses in both songs are very similar, as are the music videos (happy couple with the relationship eventually deteriorating). This was pretty much pointed out by everyone when You & Me was released.

terra 30th June 2013 01:59 PM

^I remember in both videos there were scenes with the shopping trolley lol

^^I agree nothing is original anymore these days, it's just people improvising with the existing ideas or things.
The reason I point the green dress and the showgirl outfit is because both costumes appear in the same tour both for Kylie and Ayu; the green dress is for a ballad segment with a dancing/flauting male dancer like Ayu and Shuya. So it's not to the extent that Kana 'stole' a green flowy dress from Ayu, it's just that we know Ayu has Kylie as one of her inspirations.

Ayu loves cabaret and showgirl concepts I guess, AT07 evolution is a proof she was inspired by Moulin Rouge http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...0aeyo1_500.jpg
This reminds me of AT05 INSPIRE's head dress
http://horiwood.files.wordpress.com/...ulin-rouge.jpg
And this reminds me of AT05 GAME / Kuu's TRICK Tour showgirl and maybe AT07 AUDIENCE-Boys & Girls as well
http://24.media.tumblr.com/fe1589a0a...eqoko1_500.jpg

Anyways, I would love to see if she'll adapt to other films, especially by Baz Luhrmann. I can't imagine Ayu wearing things inspired by The Great Gatsby! :heart

mizuki-7 30th June 2013 02:26 PM

^
Yes Cabaret style is taken back often by singer for their show !

& + H 30th June 2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~.:*:.YaSuMi.:*:.~ (Post 3011692)
I think you and the author of this thread should try to
get more information before accusing of the copy cat thing.
As the others already said, the rights to this song were purchased.

This guy :roflmao

marty 30th June 2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by terra (Post 3011967)
Anyways, I would love to see if she'll adapt to other films, especially by Baz Luhrmann. I can't imagine Ayu wearing things inspired by The Great Gatsby! :heart

God, I'd love that! Baz Luhrmann's sense of beauty in directing and choosing costumes, and creating images and stages is amazing! :heart

artcika 30th June 2013 10:54 PM

i actually find this whole stuff rather entertaining lol

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/iceca...239559_320.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jH53kug_c0...600/ayumi1.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/iceca...238448_600.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/iceca...238651_600.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/iceca...238855_600.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/iceca...239896_600.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/iceca...239357_600.jpg

~.:*:.YaSuMi.:*:.~ 1st July 2013 04:46 AM

^

The one where they compare her to Christina's video is not fair at all... just because of the black wig and dark costume... and also the one with the black dress that looks similar to Britney's.... i mean, seriously, nowadays one can't simply just put a black dress because people will find 1,000 comparisons of other people who wore a black dress and say you are a copycat. :eviltongu:no

The last one of the UNITE/Dune cover... that one is scary! I think it's more than a coincidence. :(

drdolce 1st July 2013 10:48 AM

Damn, I knew I had seen those ourselves scenes somewhere when I saw that PV for the first time! :O

marty 1st July 2013 11:42 AM

Sometimes is plain obvious, but sometimes people are really unbelievable... like, ok, for a summer song I'm on a beach in a summer suit, so I copied the millions of singers before me because they did it too? And that's only one example I remember I saw.
I mean, some things are copied or "inspired by", but a lot of things are cliches, and, most importantly, some things are nothing. Like, snow for a winter ballad or beach for a summer song, or two plain red t-shirts.
I'm not attacking anyone here, we're talking normally in this thread (and I love that), I'm just slowly remembering all I had to see in the past years... And some stuff was beyond crazy!XD

Saki-Chan 1st July 2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 3008815)
Bold & Delicious, Ladies Night, In The Corner, Pride, Beautiful Day, rainy day and Memorial address are also covers. ;)

Memorial address is not a cover, since its composer is Tetsuya Yukumi..
she sings cover ( with her original lyrics) in her "My story", her songs were originally written for Sweetbox, if I remember well ^^

Anyway.. I like more the original version of "Tell me why" than ayumi's try

terra 1st July 2013 02:18 PM

^Memorial address is a cover from Tetsuya Yukumi's band, LOVER SOUND TRACK. The original song is titled 'kumo' and the lyric is totally different, so does the arrangement so it counts ;)

There's no cover songs in MY STORY as far as I know, cover songs are in (miss)understood.

everlastingRAINBOW 1st July 2013 10:38 PM

Herp derp.

Isicio 2nd July 2013 12:36 AM

I'm surprised about that, but I don't think that ayu is a Copycat. I always thing when I listen this song that is so western, and an unusual song of ayu. But anyway some songs of kuu ayu and namie are composed by europeans composers.

douggn 3rd July 2013 02:03 AM

basically to everyone, ayu bought the music and wrote the lyrics like most of her songs, but this time the music she bought was used elsewhere, just like she did with (miss)understood, Bold and Delicious, Ladies Night etc, except ayu go (miss)understood out before sweetbox got there versions out


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