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Cherry Dynamite 15th October 2010 09:08 AM

Utopia in Ayu's work
 
Ayu's song, PV, or anything that depicts Utopian elements?
Actually this is for my Politics class and I really need help, Normally I would write about conventional stuffs like The Republic but heck I'm overseas I can write about anything I want!

Anyways you're help will be much appreciated.

Thanks!

relmy 15th October 2010 11:51 AM

Endless sorrow has a dystopia, which is all I can think of.

noisy_harmony 15th October 2010 11:59 AM

from music videos... maybe walking proud, JEWEL, fairyland, Dearest acoustic version and BALLAD? utopian worlds with sad, dramatic elements (except JEWEL and Dearest). Free & Easy too, that place seen though windows.

Luvia 15th October 2010 03:00 PM

fairyland? blue bird?? Ladies' Night? Surreal? dearest~accoustic ver~? and Sweet Seasons!! haha

forgiveness?? and ayu old song "You"?

Andrenekoi 15th October 2010 03:27 PM

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Utopia (pronounced /juːˈtoʊpiə/) is a name for an ideal community or society possessing a perfect socio-politico-legal system.[1] The word was invented by Sir Thomas More for his 1516 book Utopia, describing a fictional island in the Atlantic Ocean. The term has been used to describe both intentional communities that attempted to create an ideal society, and fictional societies portrayed in literature. It has spawned other concepts, most prominently dystopia.
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A dystopia (from Ancient Greek: δυσ-: bad-, ill- and Ancient Greek: τόπος: place, landscape) (alternatively, cacotopia,[1] or anti-utopia) is, in literature, an often futuristic society that has degraded into a repressive and controlled state, often under the guise of being utopian. Dystopian literature has underlying cautionary tones, warning society that if we continue to live how we do, this will be the consequence. A dystopia is, thus, regarded as a sort of negative utopia and is often characterized by an authoritarian or totalitarian form of government. Dystopias usually feature different kinds of repressive social control systems, a lack or total absence of individual freedoms and expressions and constant states of warfare or violence. Dystopias often explore the concept of technology going "too far" and how humans individually and en masse use technology. A dystopian society is also often characterized by mass poverty for most of its inhabitants and a large military-like police force.
Nops, she has no video that shows an utopia... But there is dystopia on endless sorrow as relmy said

Cherry Dynamite 15th October 2010 03:41 PM

Some of her PV do have Utopian elements but that's subjective, that's why I decided to use something else because the paper I'm writing is a quarter of my grade I don't wanna risk doing bad.

Thanks guys!

yamadashun 15th October 2010 04:28 PM

in count down, she uses the word "桃源鄉", which is some kind of Utopia.

gallowsCalibrator 16th October 2010 04:48 PM

For a dystopia, Endless sorrow~ I'd say walking proud for a utopia, though. I guess it's all opinions, though :)

Insanity1240 16th October 2010 05:30 PM

Forgiveness PV looks like a land version of Atlantis which somehow ties into a Utopia? :P

Mirrorcle Monster 17th October 2010 08:41 AM

Endless Sorrow for a dystopia and Sweet Season for. Utopia

Ayumi_lover 17th October 2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by yamadashun (Post 2521460)
in count down, she uses the word "桃源鄉", which is some kind of Utopia.

It's Eden, not Utopia. The difference is really big

Utopia would be "武陵桃源"

Cherry Dynamite 17th October 2010 11:07 AM

^ I don't think he was saying those characters means Utopia she's just saying that it can be a form of Utopia.

Thanks again~

kumikomishitate 17th October 2010 02:48 PM

I think Endless Sorrow is definitely your best bet for this with F&E and Far Away being a second and third. Perhaps even talkin' 2 myself. However, unless Endless Sorrow, these have much weaker stories. All her other PVs show weak references to utopias and dystopias. Some would say alterna but it's hinting towards reality if anything. Additionally, just smiling and being surrounded by happy colours does not mean it is a utopia. It is just a pretty video.

Hydeki 17th October 2010 03:18 PM

People, you are confusing utopia with happiness or happy life, which absolutely have some things in common but they are NOT the same. BlUE BIRD has nothing to do with Utopia, it's just her having fun in summer, something that most of us have experienced, and the same with greatful days and fairlyand. I neither see the Utopia part in JEWEL, her singing in front of crystal trees, and even if it were utopic, if you rewatch the PV there are some parts where she is like "lonely" or "sad", words that never suit Utopia.

What I want to say is that no matter how happy may ayu look in her PV's, it doesn't have anything to do with Utopia, we can be happy right now, but we don't live in an utopic society.

As said before, ES is dystopia, and Dearest has several utopic elements, like cooperation between humanity.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 17th October 2010 03:54 PM

BALLAD -> definitely... :yes

maikaru 17th October 2010 04:15 PM

Utopia is in the eye of the beholder.

For example, if someone believes that everything made of crystal is utopia, where everything is clean, and sparkling, then that would be utopia for them, a perfect world. I think the meaning of Utopia in this age means somewhere perfect for the person who is thinking about it, so I think fairyland in the beginning would be a utopia, until it burned.


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