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chu-lips 7th August 2011 04:48 PM

Yahoo! News asks: Is there too much Korean entertainment in Japan?
 
Yahoo! News is asking its readers to weigh in on the recent influx of Korean entertainment in Japan

"After Takaoka Sousuke criticized the Korean wave he was fired from his agency. On one side, some are saying "I don't see anything wrong with the Hanryu. It's an age of globalism," (brain scientist Ken Mogi). How do you feel about the amount of Hanryu in Japan?"

Results so far show 93% of readers think there is too much, with 5% saying there's just enough, 3% not knowing and in last place, 1% saying there's not enough.

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source: http://polls.dailynews.yahoo.co.jp/q...v=1&typeFlag=1


about takaoka sousuke tweet scandal..

Sousuke Takaoka, a famous Japanese actor, is under fire after publicly sharing his hostility towards the Hallyu wave.

On July 24th, Sousuke Takaoka shared some controversial opinions through his Twitter, saying, “I used to be indebted to Fuji TV in the past, but now I’m suspicious that they may actually be a Korean network” and “I’m questioning about what country I’m in as well”.

He didn’t hold back on his feelings, as he wrote, “It offends me” and “If anything related to Korea is on broadcast, I just turn the TV off”.

Sousuke explained why he felt this way with, “It troubles me because I feel like I am being brainwashed”, and “Since we’re in Japan, I would like to see Japanese programs. I get scared every time I hear the word, ‘Hallyu’”.

Although it was only an opinion, the problem is that certain Japanese netizens went on to agree with Takaoka, widely sharing their critical perspective towards the Hallyu wave. Some of these netizens showed their accordance by commenting, “It’s true”, “I want to stop seeing Korean celebrities”, and “Japanese dramas are great enough. I don’t know why they need to keep showing Korean dramas’.”

Korean netizens were dumbfounded and confused, as they wrote, “Korean dramas are exported and broadcast under the decisions of Japanese broadcasting companies and drama producers, but it’s a shame to see that people seem to be putting the blame on Korea”, “I’m disappointed that an actor who played the role of a Korean-Japanese immigrant said something like this”, and “Are they not thinking about Japanese dramas being played in Korea? Are they going to be annoyed by American dramas that’s airing over there as well?”.

Sousuke Takaoka is a famous actor who debuted in 1999 through the drama, “Heaven’s Kiss”. In particular, he’s gained a reputation in Korea through “Pacchigi”, where he played the role of ‘Lee An Sung’, a Korean-Japanese immigrant. He is also the husband of top Japanese actress, Aoi Miyazaki...

Tom Punks 7th August 2011 04:56 PM

Judging from your sig, it looks like you're just trying to start another "JPOP IS SO MUCH BETTAR THAN KPOP" thread... but anyways.

Personally, I think there's too much kpop in Japan, and not because I'm a jpop purist or anything like that. I'm just getting really tired of my favorite kpop artists debuting in Japan. I mean, all they ever do at first is release Japanese versions of their Korean songs, so it's like... there's no new music to look forward to when they go to Japan. And not only that, but 90% of the time, their Japanese is TERRIBLE. I mean, in Dara's Japanese Hate You teaser, I would NEVER have been able to tell what she was saying if not for the subtitles on the video.

I got into kpop because it was just fresh, fun, catchy pop... Which is why I've been drifting away from jpop because after 2005-2006 it kind of fell into a slump. So when kpop artists go to Japan, for me it's kind of like, you're going to the place I've been trying to get away from musically. :irked And also all the Japanese activities really take away from their Korean releases. I swear, I've ignored kpop for like a year because I got too lazy to keep up with everyone's releases, and now that I'm coming back to it, I've realized... all my favorite artists have released like only one thing in the past year, when they used to release a ton before going to Japan. :tired

Anyways tl;dr I would like if Korean artists stayed in Korea and Japanese artists stayed in Japan because personally I like jpop and kpop for totally different reasons and don't want them meshed together, not because I'm one of those people who thinks "OMG KPOP ARTISTS NEED TO GTFO BECAUSE JPOP IS SO MUCH BETTER" or whatever.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th August 2011 05:38 PM

They need to go to Japan, all the money is there, so I'm not surprised.

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

chu-lips 7th August 2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TofuBunny (Post 2730902)
Okay seriously, you need to stop. How many variations of this thread are you going to make ?

n seriously if u dont like any thread i made jus get away from my thread so simple as that...:innocent

NintendoHTF1242 7th August 2011 07:00 PM

^ But you start flame wars. AHS doesn't approve of flame wars.

Anyway, I saw this on Arama and tbh idc.

ExodusUK 7th August 2011 07:08 PM

Yes there is, the Japanese music industry has ****ed up and they've totally allowed Kpop to monopolize the Asian music scene somehow. It's just a fad though.

Diego-kun 7th August 2011 07:11 PM

At first I didn't like it but given the current boring J-pop I'm starting to accept it and I enjoy girlbands such as KARA, Shoujo Jidai or After School. Although I still think there are too many Korean groups debuting in Japan...

Polyrhythm 7th August 2011 08:00 PM

True, but we all (not just Japan) just have to deal with it for now. Even my sister and her younger friends who listen to Kpop are finding the fad to be fading quickly. They're always like, "this sounds like so and so song that came out one week ago" or something. So I guess that's what people in Japan are thinking. Too much of the same. It was enough with just a few solid groups like Kara who were actually entering Jpop as something fresh....but when the flood of generics started coming in....I guess it was too much.

koumori 7th August 2011 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TofuBunny (Post 2730943)
It's funny that you say that .. Since you obviously hate kpop but still feel the need to make 49384835 threads about it :rolleyes

And like Nintendo said, all you do is start flame wars, which is against the rules here.

If anyone feels this thread is getting into a flame-war, don't reply and simply report any posts you feel are against the rules. :) This will stop any drama and a mod can clean it up from there.

~~

In my opinion, I don't really mind the "K-Pop Wave". I actually think it's really good that so many are expanding their audiences. However, there's been a lot of stories that bands/singers are being overworked to keep their two separate fanbases happy and not being paid enough for their efforts (like KARA), so I'm more worried for the artists involved and their well-being.

TofuBunny 7th August 2011 08:12 PM

^ Okay then :). Sorry for that !
I'll delete my posts from here ~

Yoake 7th August 2011 09:36 PM

I think there is too much kpop everywhere :laugh

Seriously, I don't really mind if Kpop bands go to Japan. If they go to Japan, It means that Japan is the best!

I'm not really in that I love Kpop so much spirit. Because I just think there is a lot of bands that make the same music.

Just let the wave come, after 2 or 3 years, Jpop'll be back in the top!

AyUta 7th August 2011 11:20 PM

yeah, honestly i dont mind it. i love how they're debuting in japan, and i actually do like the korean songs that are re-made in japanese. it's just interesting. i just wish there was an equal amount, like half the album is remade and then at least give us some good amount of new material. but other than that, it's fun imo. :)

Kanzaki 7th August 2011 11:47 PM

Honestly, isn't it just a question of supply and demand? Obviously they are selling well. And can there be too much of it, just because it's not japanese (or because it's korean? Idk).

If you ask me, no. You listen to what you choose. The rest is out of your hands. If there was a boom of any kind of music in my country/countries (Denmark, Sweden) I'd be happy if it was good music of course, but if it was music that I don't want to listen to, I don't.

These K-pop groups to me, are just catering to what the japanese always enjoyed; less than being about good music it's about idols. How cute the girls/boys are, what they eat, their star signs etc. I think that's mostly what's causing their current boom, like how popular Morning Musume used to be. Also their songs can be damn catchy :P

bondingo 8th August 2011 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm (Post 2730960)
Even my sister and her younger friends who listen to Kpop are finding the fad to be fading quickly. They're always like, "this sounds like so and so song that came out one week ago" or something. So I guess that's what people in Japan are thinking. Too much of the same.

Exactly the way I've felt since the beginning of 2011 or so. K-Pop was so original and fresh for the past two years, but now it all sounds the same. Nothing about it is inventive, especially when groups that were my absolute favorites (like 2NE1) have new songs that all sound like the same tired, auto-tuned crap. I'm sure Japan will get sick of it soon enough and the sales will start to decline.

I do personally hope KARA stays in Japan though, because their Japanese is great and almost all my favorite songs by them were either recorded first in Japanese or were remade into it. I also think SNSD's Japanese album is the greatest thing they've ever done. Forget their career in Korea if you ask me.

I see no problem with a few groups in Japan, but they're seriously all going there now. I guess it makes sense though; Koreans download everything and Japan is still far more lucrative and their fans are far more supportive of artists in terms of sales, so it only makes sense that everyone would want that instead.

petitepiper 8th August 2011 12:46 AM

yes.

YUKARI 8th August 2011 04:48 AM

I didn't like Koreans coming to Japan beginning from BoA lol.

I hope this Korean wave HANRYU will naturally end. I'm just surprised how Kpop got so popular in Japan. For me it means only that Jpop can't satisfy audience nowadays :rolleyes

I think Japanese will got tired of Kpop soon, so it will be hard to have success in Japan for Korean artists :D

chu-lips 8th August 2011 05:25 AM

about takaoka sousuke tweet scandal,,,

Sousuke Takaoka, a famous Japanese actor, is under fire after publicly sharing his hostility towards the Hallyu wave.

On July 24th, Sousuke Takaoka shared some controversial opinions through his Twitter, saying, “I used to be indebted to Fuji TV in the past, but now I’m suspicious that they may actually be a Korean network” and “I’m questioning about what country I’m in as well”.

He didn’t hold back on his feelings, as he wrote, “It offends me” and “If anything related to Korea is on broadcast, I just turn the TV off”.

Sousuke explained why he felt this way with, “It troubles me because I feel like I am being brainwashed”, and “Since we’re in Japan, I would like to see Japanese programs. I get scared every time I hear the word, ‘Hallyu’”.

Although it was only an opinion, the problem is that certain Japanese netizens went on to agree with Takaoka, widely sharing their critical perspective towards the Hallyu wave. Some of these netizens showed their accordance by commenting, “It’s true”, “I want to stop seeing Korean celebrities”, and “Japanese dramas are great enough. I don’t know why they need to keep showing Korean dramas’.”

Korean netizens were dumbfounded and confused, as they wrote, “Korean dramas are exported and broadcast under the decisions of Japanese broadcasting companies and drama producers, but it’s a shame to see that people seem to be putting the blame on Korea”, “I’m disappointed that an actor who played the role of a Korean-Japanese immigrant said something like this”, and “Are they not thinking about Japanese dramas being played in Korea? Are they going to be annoyed by American dramas that’s airing over there as well?”.

Sousuke Takaoka is a famous actor who debuted in 1999 through the drama, “Heaven’s Kiss”. In particular, he’s gained a reputation in Korea through “Pacchigi”, where he played the role of ‘Lee An Sung’, a Korean-Japanese immigrant. He is also the husband of top Japanese actress, Aoi Miyazaki...

happiholic★ 8th August 2011 06:14 AM

I can understand where some of the Japanese are coming from. I live in Canada, where there are a large number of immigrants, so there is a lot of foreign stuff around. Yes, I do get annoyed when its like one culture is taking over, but in the end I am glad for the mix. It keeps life interesting. So what if there are a lot of Korean programs on TV? Don't like, don't watch. Simple as that. Although I think that having other countries programs are good for learning about and accepting other cultures, I do think that there needs to be some moderation, so perhaps that is why some Japanese are annoyed? But, I don't live in Japan, so I don't know just how big the Korean Wave is there.

What I really don't get is how non-Japanese people would be annoyed. I see that some posted reasons such as halting releases and over-working celebrities, but for those who just say that there is too much Korean stuff in Japan, why is that? I see someone posted that BoA was too much :S

YUKARI 8th August 2011 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 2731169)
about takaoka sousuke tweet scandal,,,

Sousuke Takaoka, a famous Japanese actor, is under fire after publicly sharing his hostility towards the Hallyu wave.

On July 24th, Sousuke Takaoka shared some controversial opinions through his Twitter, saying, “I used to be indebted to Fuji TV in the past, but now I’m suspicious that they may actually be a Korean network” and “I’m questioning about what country I’m in as well”.

He didn’t hold back on his feelings, as he wrote, “It offends me” and “If anything related to Korea is on broadcast, I just turn the TV off”.

Sousuke explained why he felt this way with, “It troubles me because I feel like I am being brainwashed”, and “Since we’re in Japan, I would like to see Japanese programs. I get scared every time I hear the word, ‘Hallyu’”.

Although it was only an opinion, the problem is that certain Japanese netizens went on to agree with Takaoka, widely sharing their critical perspective towards the Hallyu wave. Some of these netizens showed their accordance by commenting, “It’s true”, “I want to stop seeing Korean celebrities”, and “Japanese dramas are great enough. I don’t know why they need to keep showing Korean dramas’.”

Korean netizens were dumbfounded and confused, as they wrote, “Korean dramas are exported and broadcast under the decisions of Japanese broadcasting companies and drama producers, but it’s a shame to see that people seem to be putting the blame on Korea”, “I’m disappointed that an actor who played the role of a Korean-Japanese immigrant said something like this”, and “Are they not thinking about Japanese dramas being played in Korea? Are they going to be annoyed by American dramas that’s airing over there as well?”.

Sousuke Takaoka is a famous actor who debuted in 1999 through the drama, “Heaven’s Kiss”. In particular, he’s gained a reputation in Korea through “Pacchigi”, where he played the role of ‘Lee An Sung’, a Korean-Japanese immigrant. He is also the husband of top Japanese actress, Aoi Miyazaki...

this guy played my favourite character in Battle Royale! just googled his pic :)

I can imagine how it's really strange when you turn on TV and there's only Korean people acting, dancing, singing... Poor one, he's now suspended from his agency ~.~

AyumiHamasandwich 8th August 2011 06:48 AM

TBH nothing is wrong with kpop in Japan.
If the Japanese artists are still topping the charts, its shouldnt be a problem.
Theyre not making anything in Korea so they might as well go to Japan.
And to the Jpop fans that says that kpop needs to go back to their country, ugggh just stop, you dont even live in Japan.


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