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chu-lips 26th October 2012 01:45 PM

why ayu doesn't want to go global
 
is there any reason why ayu never want to try to go outside Japan?

channy 26th October 2012 02:11 PM

Her place is in Japan/Asia and if she would book giant concert halls in western countries, it would most probably turn out as the biggest flop ever?

Asian music for western standards is considered as "special interest" and would not make a profit elsewhere in the world.

alternarist 26th October 2012 02:40 PM

There is no market for her outside of Japan. Or nowhere can afford her except hong kong, Taiwan or shanghai haha

pchan1986 26th October 2012 03:56 PM

I truthfully think there shouldn't be a reason why she can't perform anywhere else besides Asia. She has a huge fan base even though she may not be as popular as before. I'm quite sure if she was going to do a world tour, it would be sold out. I've been dying to see her for the past 11 years. I'd pay anything just to see her here in the states.

owlflight 26th October 2012 04:02 PM

The moment she announces a tour date in the USA, I am so there! I would imagine that it would be hard to go global by just singing Japanese and I don't know if she is comfortable singing in English. And I'm sure a world tour for a performer like her would be expensive in terms of production.

TeamAyu2004 26th October 2012 04:31 PM

I cant see her doing a HUGE tour but something like on the West coast of America or one or 2 locations in europe?
Some Asian acts have done it... I dont know why Ayumi hasnt done it?

Rurutia 26th October 2012 04:42 PM

she should NOT! because despite me wishing for this badly, her pronunciation of english, or rather her accent is too strong. Sometimes I cringe when she sings some english lines in her songs, it's just that unpleasant to me sometimes. :( However I don't see anything wrong with her performing a concert in the states. I am so there!

chu-lips 26th October 2012 04:42 PM

adding a question
why she isn't trying to sing in English?
she has the look to attract audience imo...

kimmeh 26th October 2012 04:50 PM

I love ayu to bits, but she could never make a global breakthrough
1. she is too old, and her fame is nothing like it used to be. If she was to go global, she had to do this a long time ago
2. Ayu doesn't play as much as sex as the rest of the world (rihanna, katy perry etc) and her lyrics require some more reflecting than "i kissed a girl and i liked it" type of music
3. People don't like music they don't understand unless its super repetitive.
4. Girls generation tried to go big in the US with ~The Boys Eng version~, performing at the late night show and everything. They failed - hard. Their music are a lot moremainstream and easier to like by the "typical radiolistner" than Ayu, yet they couldnt do it.
5. Ayu is too good for the global sellout marked.

ExodusUK 26th October 2012 05:00 PM

She barely promotes as it is in a country where all the media/press is centered in the city she lives in. Can't see her making the effort to go global.

TeamAyu2004 26th October 2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 2923245)
adding a question
why she isn't trying to sing in English?
she has the look to attract audience imo...

her accent is too thick.

NintendoHTF1242 26th October 2012 05:09 PM

I'd be okay with Ayu performing over here at two or more venues like BIGBANG or 2NE1.

But to actually try to make it in the market? Won't happen. Like TeamAyu said, her accent is far too thick to try to make a full-on English song for this market. BoA, GG, and Utada have all tried to make it with serious music, but have all failed to an extent. The only Asian artist who has made an impact was PSY, and that's because GANGNAM STYLE is catchy-fun stuff rather than serious.

Kazeyomi 26th October 2012 06:01 PM

Unless for few songs, Ayu's never been a pop music mainstream type. I mean, she's a pop singer but her songs always had a strong japanese touch on them.
And it may cannot appeal the western casual listener used to -insertfamoussingernamehere-.

I wouldn't mind a concert out of Asia, but I think it's hard for her to break into western music market.
Also, I couldn't handle another disappoinment after Utada's two english albums (except for gems like Exodus'04 and Kremlin Dusk of course).

xLuna&1LOVE 26th October 2012 06:20 PM

Asian music is in general not really appealing to the western countries. Allthough Ayu's arrangements could be catchy, you won't see anyone singing along with her language. For the western public could that be pretty complicated. We all know by now that the guy with Gangnam Style did some pretty awesome job for becoming that popular over the world, but as a Western girl: we stick to the things we understand, even from that song. And when we are taking Gangnam Style as an example: it's a dancemove + "Eeeeeeeeeey sexy laddyyyy!" Ayu can try whatever she want, but she won't really gain anything by trying to promote herself in Western countries. Like I said before, her music is too complicated for the ears of a Western musiclover.

Delicious n Bold 26th October 2012 06:25 PM

I always thought it was because Ayu no speaká de Englishu.
Like some people are saying about catchiness: as Gangnam style proves, no1curr about lyrics and just the beat. Ayu's music sounds nice, but it isn't catchy... well, maybe some songs are. But songs like Voyage would be destined flops in the North American music market I think.

TeamAyu2004 26th October 2012 07:24 PM

^ if it was english I think she would have a good chance to be with the likes of madonna/celine/mariah

ohsixthirty 26th October 2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2923282)
I always thought it was because Ayu no speaká de Englishu.
Like some people are saying about catchiness: as Gangnam style proves, no1curr about lyrics and just the beat. Ayu's music sounds nice, but it isn't catchy... well, maybe some songs are. But songs like Voyage would be destined flops in the North American music market I think.

Mentioning Gangnam Style brings up an interesting point though. The west doesn't really care about Asians unless they fit into the stereotypes they're comfortable with. This article about Psy mentions a lot of this: http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4329226.html. Basically, the west is only into Asian men if they're nerdy/funny/asexual/etc... I think the same goes for women. The west just doesn't accept it. :( Ayu would never find success overseas because no one would care honestly. Most people would take one listen and say it was weird and move on.

TeamAyu2004 26th October 2012 07:31 PM

^ and I dont really understand the craze about this song anyways...
its not that good...
Yes I dance along to it in the car... but I roll my eyes if it comes on for a second time... and then the 3rd... and dont even get me started when it happens to play 4 times in my single car ride...
-.-

BlackSilence 26th October 2012 07:36 PM

um i don't think she needs that...also i think it's good she doesn't do that
because ayu has CLASS and her PATH.

she has depth in her songs they never been just cathy empty bla bla joke things everyone is calling a good music in west world, it sells well but it gets forgotten very quickly, i don't see use in that. psy will be forgotten soon too after someting more stupid and ridiculous shows up. i really see no reason why she should try and give up her uniquness for getting attention in the western world..... she's alreadya legend in Japan.

Kouyou 26th October 2012 07:41 PM

I don't really feel like an English song by her would be successful just because she has a heavy accent and her style does not suit the current market. However, I agree with a lot of people saying that she should hold a few concerts abroad. I guarantee you that if she held a concert in California it would do great. :)


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