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Kacper87 9th December 2004 05:05 PM

MY STORY- a huge disappointment:(
 
well I must say, that I've been an ayu-fan for about 2 years... and when I heared the previews of MY STORY... I was VERY DISAPPOINTED... after hearing some full songs... I'm still disappoionted. And the word "disappointed" is not even enough.

I can't listen to these new songs at all. Her voice is so freakin terrible. The songs doesn't stand out at all. They mostly pretend to be "hard rock" when in reality they're just plain pop. And there's so many fillers that don't bring anything new, no freshness. All of these songs have almost identical structures(u know, her usuall structure- verse, chours, verse, chours, music bridge, chours without backing vocals, chours). And there is "HONEY" which is a BIG misunderstanding- I mean this whole "myyy honeyyy" thing and her vocals- Jesus is she almost 30 queen of j-pop or 13 and singing in an elementary school girl band?

I thnik I'm getting frustrated cuz of this album=/ I'm wondering- was she always that crappy and i didn't noticed it? I did always knew that ayu was a pop artist, but she always had something unique to offer, even if her voice wasn't the best out there(listening to the new songs i'm starting 2 think that it's the worst). And even the new PV- "about you" being a fine PV itself is just a lazy copy of GAME combined with INSPIRE (all her PVs are going downhill now days- where are the PLOT PVs I ask???).

Right now I'm very close 2 deleteing all her stuff from my harddrive=/

I know that many of u guys are going 2 bash me cuz I see taht many people like this album:P I'm very sorry if I offended anyone!

yulen 9th December 2004 05:08 PM

hmm you are VERY entitled to your opinion. don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

you shouldn't delete her songs you like tho just b/c you don't like this album lol. ayu's style has been changing a lot lately. some people love it and some people hate it it seems. no shame in it!

DarkAyumi 9th December 2004 05:18 PM

You're definitely entitled to your opinion, but give it some time. Not everyone liked I am... when it first came out, and now most of the songs on that are classics. A couple years from now you might find out that you actually like it - it's just different now. I don't know, I'm upset with some of the songs too, but in the future we may turn out to like them a lot more than we do now - and if you still don't like them, keep an open ear though! I think she changes her style a lot and you'd find something you like about her again.
I don't know, even though almost all the songs have been leaked by now, I still think we should refrain from calling things a disappointment when they haven't even been released yet.

Taishaku 9th December 2004 05:23 PM

You haven't even heard the album and you're judging so early... =/

I'm not dissapointed at all... but i'm just waiting to hear the album and see how is it... of course you can't expect another "I am...", her masterpiece... but just give it some time... and i bet... i really bet that when you hear the full album, you'll love and sing along most of the songs... heheh =P :yes

FuNsTyLe 9th December 2004 05:38 PM

Im disappointed too... But I guess I had too high expectations anyway. She will never make another I Am... This album is alright i guess, pretty much like Rainbow, a nice album, but nothing special. The songs are kinda similiar, but I hope ill change my mind after i've heard the whole album. And about that song structure you are mentioning; allmost any pop song is built like that...

sxesven 9th December 2004 05:38 PM

From what I've heard, I just have to agree with you. The songs that were released on single before didn't do much for me (although I didn't dislike all of them), and the 'new' songs, or what I've heard from, are so-so at best. It all sounds generic and random and like nothing special. Definitely her worst album yet, imo. Not all her albums were masterpieces, but they all had at least 3 or 4 stand-out songs. My Story has none so far.

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Originally Posted by Kacper87
All of these songs have almost identical structures(u know, her usuall structure- verse, chours, verse, chours, music bridge, chours without backing vocals, chours).

Very true. Ayu's lacking when you consider innovation and original thoughts; everything seems to have been written, recorded and whatever on auto-pilot. Ayu, I miss you.

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Originally Posted by Kacper87
I know that many of u guys are going 2 bash me cuz I see taht many people like this album:P I'm very sorry if I offended anyone!

If there's anyone even CONSIDERING bashing, think twice, thrice even. We're talking opinions here, and opinions should be voiced. You're supposed to say what you think. That's not offending. That's just honest.

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Originally Posted by yulen
you shouldn't delete her songs you like tho just b/c you don't like this album lol.

Indeed; even if the new material is crap, there's always the good old songs, and they're still great.

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Originally Posted by DarkAyumi
Not everyone liked I am... when it first came out, and now most of the songs on that are classics. A couple years from now you might find out that you actually like it - it's just different now.

Actually, I don't think one will discover more musical value in Ayu's music in hindsight. What you hear is what you get. The foremost reason for I am... having a load of classics, is because the songs were actually good. Ayu's music isn't fine wine. It's pop music.

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Originally Posted by Taishaku
of course you can't expect another "I am..."

I disagree. Well, you can't expect it, but I'm sure hoping for it. Ayu delivered masterpieces before, she can do it again. I'm not lowering my standards just because she's releasing crap now.

FuNsTyLe 9th December 2004 05:40 PM

Earlier, like.. a couple of years ago,when Ayu released songs, i listened to them over and over again (her new ones), and didnt get tired of them. But so far, i havent gotten the urge to play her songs over and over again.... Except Walking Proud, its kinda nice^^ I like it the best, so far,,,

extepan 9th December 2004 05:48 PM

so far i am still listening to the old songs...my story songs arent really my type, apart from carols

DarkAyumi 9th December 2004 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sxesven
Actually, I don't think one will discover more musical value in Ayu's music in hindsight. What you hear is what you get. The foremost reason for I am... having a load of classics, is because the songs were actually good. Ayu's music isn't fine wine. It's pop music.

Yep, it's definitely pop music, but you shouldn't make lasting opinions on songs that quickly - at least I wouldn't.
I see what you're saying, but you've never had a song grow on you over time? Maybe I'm just fickle, but my tastes have changed over the past few years when it comes to her music. Songs I thought I hated a while ago I see more value in now than before.
It just seems too easy to say "this is crap" and discard it as a disappointment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an advocate of blindly following every new thing she does because it's Ayu, but we should probably give it more of a chance than we are.

tsuki 9th December 2004 06:24 PM

you know, everyone gotta change sometime... she has different styles one each album so why judge her when she's trying to reach out to people. she loves making music, it's her living and we want to hear/have her music... she gives us her life and her true feelings.
think of it like art. if you were an artist.. say, you painted a picture and you wanted to show everybody... some people love it and some hate it. but it might grow on you if you give it a try.

minkAYuko 9th December 2004 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kacper87
....All of these songs have almost identical structures(u know, her usuall structure- verse, chours, verse, chours, music bridge, chours without backing vocals, chours).

Well.. yes.. Carols and About you sound with the same structures.. and Walking Pround sonds the same as No Way to say. but if you haven;t noticed this before then you were blind or deaf. ;)

I did notice this a long time Key - Who - Dearest Same structure same bridge... It's like they said: "we are going to try and try to make the best song..." so they came up with Key and Who wich are like base for Dearest.

And so Just happens that here on MY STORY you can hear the srtuctures!... even more. :innocent

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And there is "HONEY" which is a BIG misunderstanding- I mean this whole "myyy honeyyy" thing and her vocals- Jesus is she almost 30 queen of j-pop or 13 and singing in an elementary school girl band?
Now what do fans really want? they are all: "I want CUTE AYU BACK", "i want something like signalm you or to be", "Why is she pretending to be ROCker! ??"

Nobody is statisfied with her this days.... :(

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I thnik I'm getting frustrated cuz of this album=/ I'm wondering- was she always that crappy and i didn't noticed it?
No she wasn't, she is special.. her music from her past albums is really Good, I mean c'mon NEVER EVER, RAINBOW, LOVE ~DESITNY~???? THat's fine jpop music... Even in rainbow you have sapecial music and Memorial Address is a great album too... No way to say, Forgiveness, BoY.

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Right now I'm very close 2 deleteing all her stuff from my harddrive=/

You'll regrate if you erease her... i know you are mad.. even i'm mad.. but is still think Moments Carols and even Inspire are really AYu HITS just beautiful music! even GAME beacuase is more rocker than BoY.

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I know that many of u guys are going 2 bash me cuz I see taht many people like this album:P I'm very sorry if I offended anyone!
yes... there will be ppl that will be offended but don't pay attention.. if this is how you feel is good you are leting all out.. and even nicer that you share your point of view.

And like Tuski said she's just trying New things out... all her albums are different..

A Song For XX: Cute songs.
Duty: Dark
LOVEppears: Dance songs
I am: all past tree albums in one
Rainbow: Trying every Style
Memorial Address: Nice Ballads and Dreams of being Rocker (c'mon since BoY we all wanted AYu to be ROcker)
MY STORY: ROCK

At least she's not repeating herelf evrytime! :lech

sxesven 9th December 2004 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkAyumi
Yep, it's definitely pop music, but you shouldn't make lasting opinions on songs that quickly - at least I wouldn't.
I see what you're saying, but you've never had a song grow on you over time? Maybe I'm just fickle, but my tastes have changed over the past few years when it comes to her music. Songs I thought I hated a while ago I see more value in now than before.

My personal tastes have developed a whole lot over the years, and I currently don't see it developing any further soon. My tastes are as eclectic as can be, and I know what I like and dislike. From what I've heard, I dislike most of the My Story tracks. I somewhat agree with your statement about songs growing on one, but a song I tremendously dislike, despise even, from the very beginning, will never become one of my favorites. I wrote quite the comments on all the songs I heard so far, trying to be as detailed as can be. My criticism concerns everything from unappealing melodies and generic instrumentation to lack of innovation and technical shortcomings. I wasn't biased when listening to the new material (even if I was, I'd be leaning towards Ayu, since I very much like her) - it just proved to be very disappointing. Pity.

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Originally Posted by Dark Ayumi
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an advocate of blindly following every new thing she does because it's Ayu

Don't worry, not thinking that.

Tasked 9th December 2004 06:53 PM

:| you want to delete ALL stuff just because you don't like the NEW stuff? what kind of fan are you? If you like some songs, then download/buy the CDs they're on. If you don't like my story, than don't and hope that she'll come with something you DO like. Anyway there are 17 tracks on My Story, I think that if you give it a chance everyone will like at least one, because My Story has it all: pop, rock, techno, ballad, happy, trance...

DarkAyumi 9th December 2004 06:56 PM

Yeah, I definitely see what you mean. I just hope this album turns out really well, and I guess I take it too personally when people don't like it, but it's their opinion and I can see why people would be upset. I hope I didn't come off as rude or offensive, if I did I'm sorry.

sxesven 9th December 2004 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rody!
:| you want to delete ALL stuff just because you don't like the NEW stuff? what kind of fan are you? If you like some songs, then download/buy the CDs they're on. If you don't like my story, than don't and hope that she'll come with something you DO like. Anyway there are 17 tracks on My Story, I think that if you give it a chance everyone will like at least one, because My Story has it all: pop, rock, techno, ballad, happy, trance...

That was needless. I can see how Kacper87 is disappointed, I can see how it just depresses him. No need to jump at him with mindless comments like that.

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Originally Posted by DarkAyumi
Yeah, I definitely see what you mean. I just hope this album turns out really well, and I guess I take it too personally when people don't like it, but it's their opinion and I can see why people would be upset. I hope I didn't come off as rude or offensive, if I did I'm sorry.

Don't worry, you didn't come off as rude or offensive at all. You posted a thoughtful reply (and then some more), kudos for that.

//hikari 9th December 2004 07:05 PM

Its ok .. I feel your pain. All of these songs are recycled and generic. The only one I really like is Moments .. and I semi-like CAROLS. The rest ... pfft.

Too many of the songs sound like other people .. as if Ayu doesn't care or something about her music anymore o.O

Corybobory 9th December 2004 07:43 PM

Woah, who were you guys listening to before? This is Ayu, it sounds totally Ayu... I think this album has just as much growth and originality as ever before... I think you guys just need to get used to it. After hearing the album a few times, maybe you'll feel different?

boogieordie 9th December 2004 07:54 PM

I'm not dissappointed because I never expected it to be good. He.

I listened to Rainbow a whole hell of a lot, but I never liked it.

I agree with the general recylced and generic feel. I do however really like About You, especially after listening to other new songs.
Maybe I'll like it more with time.

Lumix 9th December 2004 07:58 PM

I wanted more from walking proud.. but the song Liar is really good!

walking proud 9th December 2004 08:18 PM

deleting all of her songs because of MY STORY.. is just rather stupid, in my opinion. just because you don't like her new stuff, that doesn't mean her old stuff automatically gets 'bad'.


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