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stardusties 2nd June 2005 09:48 PM

Does Jolin Tsai have good English skills?
 
I'm curious...the English she says in "Ye Man You Xi" sounds perfect...so I was just wondering...

Does she have songs with a lot of English in it? or Random English words like Ayumi?

leafyamazaki 2nd June 2005 09:57 PM

Her earlier songs like, "Don't Stop" (a cover) or "You gotta know," had bits of english in them. Her english sounded good in both those two songs.

Jkb123 2nd June 2005 10:55 PM

I have only heard her say a tiny bit of English. It's the first track off the 'Castle' album (Don't know the name), she says: 'Say sorry get out' in perfect English.

Joel 2nd June 2005 11:00 PM

I was wondering that too... lol WAY beter than BoA's english lol

stardusties 2nd June 2005 11:02 PM

Wow cool! i'll check out those songs

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Originally Posted by Jbry2k8
I was wondering that too... lol WAY beter than BoA's english lol

rofl...BoA's english is ear bleeding sometimes :X...but In Dreams come True...when she said it at the end....I could have sworn she magicially spoke english well xD

//hikari 2nd June 2005 11:08 PM

Jolin can speak english. from what i know she has a degree in it.

i've heard her cover "The Rose" and her English is flawless.

miracleofsuzaku 2nd June 2005 11:11 PM

i'm sure she speaks good english(but don't know if it's ABC English or not)...afterall...it's her major in college i believe

Joel 2nd June 2005 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stardusties
Wow cool! i'll check out those songs



rofl...BoA's english is ear bleeding sometimes :X...but In Dreams come True...when she said it at the end....I could have sworn she magicially spoke english well xD

lol when she says "Ya, I expect." from the song expect I laughed so hard!

Brittany 2nd June 2005 11:43 PM

I think when it comes down to learning English, that Chinese are a lot better at picking up the pronouncations of English than the Japanese do, considering the Japanese only learn how to read and write it.

There's always an accent when Japanese speak English. I know this because my friend Ayaka still has an accent when speaking English, but it's understandable. But my friend that came from Taiwan a year ago, she picked up English quite fast and doesn't have an accent.

Cyria 2nd June 2005 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by //hikari
i've heard her cover "The Rose" and her English is flawless.

If anyone has this song I'd like to hear it, or any other example of Jolin singing in English.

ImpactBreaker 3rd June 2005 12:18 AM

Covering a song is no proof you speak perfect english. Artists like shiina ringo can cover english songs perfectly fine but have a problem when singing their own orginal english songs. When you hear a known song several times it's easy to pick the pronunciation and imitate it. Not saying that Jolin can't speak english though, as I never listened to her songs, she probably might be good at it, but I just want to point out that covers are not the best material to judge whether an artist is or isn't fluent in english. Of course you can actually tell those who clearly aren't good at english when they actually cover it with a terrible pronunciation, but the opposite is not a reliable parameter to judge in my opinion.

Corybobory 3rd June 2005 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brittany
I think when it comes down to learning English, that Chinese are a lot better at picking up the pronouncations of English than the Japanese do, considering the Japanese only learn how to read and write it.

There's always an accent when Japanese speak English. I know this because my friend Ayaka still has an accent when speaking English, but it's understandable. But my friend that came from Taiwan a year ago, she picked up English quite fast and doesn't have an accent.

Really? I always noticed the opposite. I find all the Japanese students I know have little accent, and the Chinese students retain theirs really strongly

stardusties 3rd June 2005 12:59 AM

English is a really difficult language...there's 3-4 different sounds per vowel and then all the crazy pronounciations of words...I'm proud of anyone who learns english fluently if it wasn't their 1st language

Joel 3rd June 2005 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stardusties
English is a really difficult language...there's 3-4 different sounds per vowel and then all the crazy pronounciations of words...I'm proud of anyone who learns english fluently if it wasn't their 1st language

lol Now that you put it that way, it does sound a little difficult if it is not your first language.

miracleofsuzaku 3rd June 2005 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Corybobory
Really? I always noticed the opposite. I find all the Japanese students I know have little accent, and the Chinese students retain theirs really strongly

well that depends on the environment that the students grew up in...if they grew up with people of their races and speak their native language with them all the time...it's gonna be harder for them to pick up English
i know Chinese people in New York that lived in NY for many yrs but still coudn't speak good english just cause their schools were populated with a Chinese majority

starr5245 3rd June 2005 02:04 AM

Hm. I shall go to an only-English place to learn English.
But I'm sort of surprised that Jolin's English is good, considering that she lives in Taiwan, a Chinese-populated place.

Brittany 3rd June 2005 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Corybobory
Really? I always noticed the opposite. I find all the Japanese students I know have little accent, and the Chinese students retain theirs really strongly

I guess it depends on the person :eyebrow

English is STILL hard for me. I can only say that it's the hardest language to learn for foreigners.

mimika 3rd June 2005 02:36 AM

yup Jolin majored in English in University.....

her english is pretty good

devilayu 3rd June 2005 03:54 AM

This is sort of OT but learning English differs for each person, it doesn't matter if they are Chinese or Japanese. Both of the latter don't have some of the sounds that we make in English, so you can't just say, "Well, the Chinese/Japanese learn the language better."

Corybobory 3rd June 2005 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by devilayu
This is sort of OT but learning English differs for each person, it doesn't matter if they are Chinese or Japanese. Both of the latter don't have some of the sounds that we make in English, so you can't just say, "Well, the Chinese/Japanese learn the language better."

I definitly didnt mean to imply one learn the language better, I just meant in my experience, in my school with a very large asian population, there are less japanese with a strong accent. I didnt mean anything offensive by it...

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Originally Posted by Brittany
English is STILL hard for me. I can only say that it's the hardest language to learn for foreigners.

Totally! After every class I'm thankful I havent had to go through the process of learning Englisih as a second language. For everyone who's gone through that... you deserve a great big fancy medal. With sparkles.


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