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AyuHamasaki01 30th October 2007 06:46 PM

Why is it WOMEN instead of WOMAN?
 
Hi there!:shihi


I have a question about my name's WOMEN:

Why is it WOMEN and not WOMAN?

because women is plural...
Well, you do get my point, right?


THANK YOU

Luv ~Venus~ 30th October 2007 06:50 PM

I think the song was intent to represent all women and not just Ayu! XD That's my explaination!

AyuHamasaki01 30th October 2007 06:53 PM

Good point but it says my. and there's only one "my" which is Ayumi.

Why does she always think of vague titles? :confused

micster 30th October 2007 07:03 PM

Taking in the my it probably means that the song is something every girl can relate to and sing about so its like it was by her but for every girl - Generalisation.

That or its just a tad engrish cos she's not a native english speaker

Corybobory 30th October 2007 07:03 PM

Becuase she's not a native English speaker and there's a lot of Engrish in her songs and lyrics...

AyuHamasaki01 30th October 2007 07:20 PM

All hail the engrish for non-native english speakers...

Aga-chan 30th October 2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1221304)
I think the song was intent to represent all women and not just Ayu!

Agreed. I thought so from the start. And in my opinion it's intended and not just a grammatical mistake. An intended grammatical mistake so to speak. I guess that's maybe why "WOMEN" is written in all caps, to put emphasis on the fact that it's about women in general and not only about one woman - namely ayu.
And maybe it's "my" because, um... it's about women how ayu sees them? Or maybe it's because every woman has several sides to herself?

Raleigh 30th October 2007 07:47 PM

Because avex has not yet employed someone who is actually fluent in English to correct Ayu's broken Engrish.

zoomzoom 30th October 2007 10:14 PM

I'll go with the intentional too. She's representing all women, her name is women, because she is speaking for all women. Could be engrish too, idk.

There's also Greatful Days. That's wrong too, grammatically, it's spelled grateful. Maybe because the days were great and she is grateful for them? That one is a little harder to defend, might just be a grammatical error as they are pronounced the same way. Who knows.

Aga-chan 30th October 2007 10:55 PM

^I think "Greatful days" was intentional, too... We can never know, though. At least if ayu didn't explain it herself.

zoomzoom 30th October 2007 11:02 PM

^ Maybe. "Are You Wake Up?" is just out there tho. I always understood it as "are you awake?", but who knows what they meant with it. At least my name's WOMEN and Greatful Days made some sense.

everlastingRAINBOW 30th October 2007 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corybobory (Post 1221326)
Becuase she's not a native English speaker and there's a lot of Engrish in her songs and lyrics...

Haha, that was gonna be my answer! The same reason she has a song called "Are you wake up? xDD

alt.total-loser 30th October 2007 11:50 PM

my name's WOMEN

MY name. WOMEN. I represent all women. I speak for all women. So, my name's WOMEN.

criminal 31st October 2007 12:01 AM

"Are you ready?" morphed into "Ayuready?" so perhaps "Are You Wake Up?" is supposed to morph into "Ayu Wake Up?". So yeah, the interlude is basically trying to wake Ayumi from her sleep. :P

Chibi_Venus 31st October 2007 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alt.total-loser (Post 1221567)
my name's WOMEN

MY name. WOMEN. I represent all women. I speak for all women. So, my name's WOMEN.

!!

There ya go. :)

Impracticable 31st October 2007 02:20 AM

Ok, I think it's like ... there are two entities in the world.

WOMEN

and

MEN

my names WOMEN
your names MEN

like, all women come together to form one conscious being, and same with the men.

i think that is what she meant by it.

Aisha_Angel 31st October 2007 04:12 AM

I've always thought of it as Ayu's very own "I'm Every Woman" (Chaka Khan) song. Instead of it being about all women, it's Ayu representing every woman. When you look at it that way, she kind of does fit the part for almost every stereotype of a woman with the exception of Suzie Homemaker/Mommie Dearest of course...but I'm sure Ayu will eventually settle down in the future.

akesu 31st October 2007 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1221576)
"Are you ready?" morphed into "Ayuready?" so perhaps "Are You Wake Up?" is supposed to morph into "Ayu Wake Up?". So yeah, the interlude is basically trying to wake Ayumi from her sleep. :P

... Woah. Never thought of it that way.

I'm going with the former idea that it was intentional, like I'm Every Woman. But I wouldn't be surprised it it was Engrish.

Rurutia 31st October 2007 08:16 PM

i take as she as an individual is representing all women, hence my and hence women

Sommernacht~ 31st October 2007 08:58 PM

according to the PV, I think she might indicate herself as the "leader", who shows everyone how to get along :P


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