Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai

Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/index.php)
-   Enquiries (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
-   -   What's with Green? (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91609)

yuki_unmei 29th June 2009 10:48 AM

What's with Green?
 
So I've been watching the Green pv, and i don't get it. :thud
It starts out with ayu rushing through a crowd, then there's guys with painted fingernails dancing on the sidewalk...
Then two guys start dancing, and ayu ends up dancing with a cross-dressed woman (is that Midoring? a connection with "midori" and "green"?).
The whole thing just seems so unlike Ayu and random. Is it all because of this new director?

pommy48 29th June 2009 10:52 AM

@_@ one of the reason why i dislike that director so much, but i remember that AyUmIXx had an analyze of the PV and it made sense to me~

Quote:

after i've watched the PV over and over again..and compared with the lyric~
i think it's not about homosexual thing...
the dance between Ayu and Midoring.. that's just that Ayu has an imagination where she wishes that she could dance with the person she loves.. so that Midoring represents the male she loves.. Ayu falls in love.. but she can't do anything...

then, about the walking in the beginning, where Ayu seems to be so overacting *even i complained bout that before*, it's now making sense why she has to walk like that..
because on the PV, Ayu is an actress/artist, therefore she needs to act all the way...to show her high-level attitude.. that she's a very famous artist..i mean she tries to be perfect... because that's what ppl demand her to do..

and the backstage scene, where we got to see Ayu with the sad expression, which means, actually deep down in her heart, she's very lonely, she's longing to love, but she just can't because she's an artist...
that's why there are pigeons inside the cages to show that an artist like Ayu doesn't have freedom...

then again GREEN song is all about Ayu's life being a famous artist.. who doesn't have freedom to love, who doesn't have freedom to do what she wants..
but in the end, she finally has decided that form this onward, she will really just show her true-self, so that the person she loves will accept for the way she is... not as a famous artist, but deep down, her true-self~
therefore, in the end of the PV, we can see that Ayu's walking just like usual already.. no more acting...

micster 29th June 2009 10:57 AM

Theres a story in there somewhere but because of the incompetence of the director we dont really know without it needing a massive interpretation like above

yuki_unmei 29th June 2009 11:00 AM

Thanks, that's a good explanation. I still don't like this director though lol. The pv's are too hard to understand just by watching them, unlike her older ones which usually make sense after watching it twice.

@micster: yeah, really XD

The whole guys dancing thing and nail paint still doesn't make sense though, lol, unless that was just something the director really wanted to stick in there XD.

chloeM 29th June 2009 11:13 AM

Pommy... that's a good one~

y_nathz 29th June 2009 11:45 AM

thx pommy^^
i never though that weird pv hv a story ~ lol
is the director is too bad or im too stupid to understand ? :P
finally 'the man loved by ayu' is not shu-ya

JackieRos 29th June 2009 06:32 PM

thanks AyUmIXx for the explanation

Andrenekoi 29th June 2009 10:39 PM

I really like Green pv, is one of my favorites from Ayu,and I never had problems to have an understanding of it

BUT, when we are talking about interpretations of a video, a painting, a movide, a drawing... it doesn't really matter what the artist intented to mean, your personal meaning to it is the most important (if understating exactly what the director wanted to say, videos were released with a text saying what they were about). So, nobody interpretation is wrong, cuz there is no right way of understanding it

To me, it's an awesome video... just not very mainstream as Ayu's videos use to be

zyoeru 30th June 2009 12:12 AM

I agree with Andrene...I've always understood GREEN. I love it and personally don't think it's bad directing. :P

naxxo.licious™ 30th June 2009 12:50 AM

I agree with both Andrenekoi and Furashubakku.

Art is about interpretation.

True artists always try to represent sth in their works. But it's up to the audience to decide what they tried to represent.

That's pretty much what semiotics is about.

In my case, i do think the PV was about homosexuality. But w/e. That's just MY interpretation.

People will always complain about ayu's works, but, as long as i like it, i'm fine with it.

Andrenekoi 30th June 2009 01:39 AM

^Semiotics is <3

alternarist 30th June 2009 04:01 AM

good analysis by Pommy. But i still find it weird over the choice of Midoring representing ayu's love. LOL.

But i dont really care so much because the PV looks artistic enough.

AyUta 30th June 2009 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2000994)
@_@ one of the reason why i dislike that director so much, but i remember that AyUmIXx had an analyze of the PV and it made sense to me~

I didn't understand it much either, and that was a really good interpretation by AyUmIXx.

C+R+E+AYUMI 30th June 2009 09:11 AM

can't believe my eyes..thanks pommy for posting that explaination..

pommy48 30th June 2009 09:14 AM

ah no problem! if it wasn't for AyUmIXx, I never would've thought about it~

it's good that other people can read AyUmIXx's analyze, it was probably lost in the GREEN discussion thread~

zyoeru 3rd July 2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guilty_me (Post 2001775)
In my case, i do think the PV was about homosexuality. But w/e. That's just MY interpretation.

Yes! Because the male dancers also seem like lovers. :P

aqua_crystal 3rd July 2009 04:40 PM

Well, since so many people understood the PV, I have a few more questions:

What was with Shuya and that other guy dancing in the background when they were showing Ayu backstage?

And what about the part when she's walking? If she's supposed to be such a huge artist with no freedom in the PV, why doesn't anyone notice her then?

zyoeru 3rd July 2009 05:35 PM

^ Althought that's not personally how I see the PV...I'll try to explain.
The world Ayumi is living in in GREEN is basically a fantasy world. She can walk around the streets without being hassled, she can be with the person she loves. And the same would apply to the males.
But also at the end we see Ayumi sad, because we see that she isn't living in a perfect world. Her leaving at the end into an empty street to me symbolises her loneliness.

Also it could be extended to homosexuality...for the majority of the PV she's living in the open, she's being with the person of the same sex she loves, surrounded by people who're "like her" but then when it's time for her to leave once again she's all alone. Which is how many gay people feel. :P

That's just my intepretation. I've also heard rumours that GREEN's PV is based on a Chinese film called Lust, Caution. But you'd have to decide for yourself what you see. :P

Andrenekoi 3rd July 2009 07:35 PM

You don't really need to find a meaning to EVERY little detail on a video (or image in general) in order to understand it... sometimes a scene is there just cuz of its feeling... sometimes just cuz it's pretty...

noidea 3rd July 2009 08:14 PM

^ yep, for example the scene with the guys dancing in the streets, well, at least I cant find a meaning for that scene


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:14 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.