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Originally Posted by SpaceHalo

bondi, you should know by now what kind of forum we belong to. If you say something bad about someone's favourite artist, it's gonna be a war

Oh yeah that's totally it isn't it. NICE TRY. I don't defend someone just because they are my favorite artist. I would have said the same thing for anyone else. It's not like I'm saying "OMG YOU SUCK HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE HER MUSIC YOU FREAKING ***** ADADASFASKLJFASFSA" like a rabid fan. It would be totally different if dddaiyamondo and the person who reviewed at yesasia would have focused on the music that she produces rather than the way that she dresses and how she raises her son.

You guys also should read into messages more. dddaiyamondo isn't saying she should start wearing a fricking chastity belt. Just tone it down a little.

Tone it down a little? Honestly what does she need to tone down to satisfy you people? You're acting like she goes around acting promiscuous just because of her image in some songs. LOL. Please. Everyone knows Namie is shy as hell. She's just able to express a different side of her in her music, and there's nothing wrong with that. Her songs deal with sexual lyrics because that's how hip-hop and RnB is. Also, I'm curious, could someone point out to me the most provacative she's dressed? Is it the miniskirts? Oh, right. Wearing short skirts must mean that you are a ****. Nevermind the fact that that's just bringing the woman's movement back 100 years. **** that. You act like she wants to hump everything in sight.

Sex/sexuality is a normal part of life so I can't understand the stigma people have with it and the assumption that if it is used in songs that that artist is "selling out". Freedom of expression, anyone?

I guess Madonna's 11 year-old daughter is already corrupted because Madonna is still a sex symbol, even at almost 50 years old. Burn her at the stakes!

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

He said "put some clothes on", as if namie had her private parts only covered by thin rags almost 24/7. Actually, namie hardly shows much of her parts, she does try some bondage-y stuff or some tighter sexier clothes, but "put some clothes on"? I mean, I've hardly (and honestly can't even remember) seem her wearing clothes (or lack of clothes) like kuu in JUICY/CRAZY4U (maybe i'1m looking all the wrong photoshoots and PVs then). If you're going to generalize, you have to accept that other ppl generalize in their replies too.

You can say all bad things about namie, but I just think the statement that a woman who has a child has to become completely censored in what she should wear to be quite extreme LOL Namie earns a place in jpanese music because she's doing fairly well into exploring the hip-hop genre. Hip-hop usually has a close relation to sexy lyrics, dance and other things. If namie were to play a different character, she'd probably become plain like BoA, with not much of a identity nowadays? Namie chose a path in her career that works better for her. i don't think the fact she's a mother should condemn her to not invest on her career and image she portrays. I personally think she's far more behaved than she should, taking by some og the content of her lyrics.

FINALLY, someone intelligent.

And it makes me lol because these people don't know what it's like to be a single mother and be in the music biz. Have you even gone through what Namie's gone through? You shouldn't say such things then because you haven't been in her position.

Originally Posted by CoriKaru

We live in a world where it seems only good things should be said about certain people and things and if you don't like them then you shouldn't have the right to speak your mind. I don't agree with this mindset.

And I dissagree with you because all I see on j-pop forums is constant *****ing, I don't know where you've been where it's all about positivity; it's definitely not this place.

It's completely fine to not like her MUSIC, but to attack her personally like that is just vile and you know it. So you're saying it's okay for public figures to get such insults thrown at them just because they're public figures? Granted, of course, being in showbiz requires a thick skin, but to me it's the same thing as talking about someone when they're not in the room to defend themselves.

Besides, it's not like people can give any good reason to dislike Namie the person anyway.

If someone doesn't like someone or something that I like, I hold no ill will towards them nor do I think they shouldn't have said it. It's natural and it's the way the world works and it's ok.

Happening to defend an artist or person with completely well-thought out and logical reasons is better than someone just bashing someone for completely shallow and superficial reasons. Please. Saying we shouldn't do so is just weak-minded. Someone has to speak up.