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Old 24th May 2009, 06:41 AM
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Some can argue the fans may have some fault. That is not the case. They didn't start the event and they were meant to be there and rightfully so. Also if Ayu wants to spontaneously go to other parts of the neighborhood, it is reasonable for the fans to believe it's okay to follow her there. That's not the fans fault. How would they know it's not ok?

The problem is the scope of the event and they didn't get all the permission they need. The area where the event took place was fine, no one is accusing Ayu or Avex wrong here. But if they wanted to go to a place next to it and use the roads, they should have said so or at least took that into consideration first when planning about this.

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Originally Posted by f1rz3n_0028 View Post
This is just ridiculous, so now she has to ask for permission to walk on the road, that's like I have to ask my parents if I can drink some water!!
No, this situation has a particular safety risk. That's the difference. Celebrities walking around just need to be more careful in what they do. The roadblocks can cause delays in case of an emergency (police, medics, firemen, etc.) and sometimes theft rates rises in these situations. And how ridiculous this sound, some people stomp on other people without realizing it, let alone push each other. Thus, getting permission is not only a responsibilty but a necessity to better control the situation properly.

Also to be more clear, they already got permission, just not the the areas surrounding it. So yes, they ask for permission but they didn't realized they needed more.


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Originally Posted by truehappiness View Post
Again, I think this is being blown out of proportion even moreso by the fans than by the media in Japan. I mean, people are making a big deal out of Ayu saying that she should walk where she feels she should.
No, the media is making this a big deal, not the fans. This should only be on entertainment news, not the normal news and newspapers. The fans are just being fans and like to talk about their favorite celebrities, so there's nothing unusual or "out of proportion" about what the fans say. That's no different from talking about their favorite songs in detail.

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Originally Posted by maikaru View Post
I find it sad that these people who watches Ayu through computer screens or television screens for entertainmment, feel they have the to treat her like a second rate citizen, and ask her to give up her rights of free will.
Just because she entertains you, she has to give up the rights and freedoms awarded to her as a human being and entertain you?? They sound just like the Avex scandals, when she was being forced around. This is exactly what she wanted to portray in Alterna pv.
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I stand by my sentence in which I said, she should not apologize for exercising her right of freedom for walking in Shibuya and going into stores. I again ask you to step into her shoes, and restrict yourself from going to your favorite places for so many months, and see how you could survive.

The event could not just have been spontaneous; they had a canvas and stage area set up; It was the responsibility of her PR managers and Shibuya 109 mall, since Shibya 109 was the place of the event, and must have been authorized by the mall. It was not Ayumi's responsibility, since she specifically has PR managers and assistants for this reason, and paying them. Have some common sense, Ayumi cannot do everything, and is not expected to do everything. Ayumi was there for 3 minutes, not an extended period of time.

And yeah, it is so interesting how one month ago, everyone was so happy that this happened, and now, most people on this board are saying how stupid or how immature she is.

Maybe you should reevaluate who the immature person is.
Calling someone immature here and implying we don't have common sense does not make your argument anymore valid and is unnecessary. This is not about us, it's about Ayu.

Again, this is not about rights. No one is accusing her that she does not have the right to do things like any other person. Yes you're right, but that is besides the point and it doesn't make her any less at fault (and yes, others are at fault too, still not making her less at fault).

And she does has that responsibilty. She is an adult and can think for herself, so blaming others does not make her any less at fault. This whole scenario would have been a lot different if there was some kind of emergency where the police, medical personel, firemen, etc. couldn't be at a certain place on time. That was an unforeseen risk by Ayu, and fortunately nothing happened so we can all laugh this off.

But suppose something did happened and a house caught on fire or someone bleed to death or someone got robbed. No one is going to say that she had the right to do whatever she wants. That's still not going to be the topic. Instead, it's still going to be about her responsibilty to plan things properly, especially when she is not new to these procedures. That's my point. I don't care about her rights. Everyone knows it. I care about safety. The event was not planned well nor it was done properly. That's why there's a fine. If she wants to walk around promoting herself in areas where she did not get permission (they got permssion but not all the areas were accounted for, which should have), she should just say so. That way there's better preparation for fan control and road control.

If I were a celebrity, it would be very frustrating for me if I were to walk around in public knowing there will be many fans surrounding me. But since I know that, I will be considerate of many possibilities. I don't want someone not being able to go to the hospital on time because of me. At the same time, if I were a celebrity for ten years, I will eventually overlook that, like what Ayu did. The only difference is that I would have acknowledge my responsibility when I made an unintended mistake and it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Overall, like I said before, this whole thing shouldn't be on the news unless its entertainment news. Traffic violations are broken all the time and the media just need to use a celebrity as their focus rather than more serious issues that the media could have covered. It's just a traffic violation and nothing really happened. But I will still say Ayu should have known better when she wanted to go around shopping right after a huge event, which in itself was perfectly fine.
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