[Coelacanth]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Ok... here we go:

Don't take the fact that you don't like Ayu's post MA work as they are the same... Even if most of those albums are rock oriented, they don't take the same kind of rock as main influence... Secret is Hard Rock influenced, while Guilty has tones of Metal. (miss)understood isn't a rock album at all, and so is My Story. Next Level doesn't sound like those too.

Yeah but I never said I didn't like Ayu's post-MA work...

I don't understand what you're trying to argue here. I'm saying that Ayu hasn't reinvented herself like Madonna has, and you start going on about how versatile she is with her music. Sure, she dabbles in hard rock, electro, and R&B among other genres, but she does not reinvent herself the way Madonna does. Madonna creates very conceptual albums, whereas Ayu creates very few albums that actually have a solid concept. Madonna's albums tend to stick to one genre and one cohesive sound (COADF, Erotica, Ray of Light), whereas Ayu's albums (especially post MA) are multi-genre. You can stick Ladies Night on NEXT LEVEL. You can put decision on MY STORY. You can slap Together When... on Memorial address. Do you understand what I'm getting at? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I think Ayu is far from a risk-taker compared to Madonna and does not want to alienate her audience musically.

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Ayu has pro-women songs, gay music video, kiss on the mouth on scene, and this guy was chinese, "Asia is one" and the list goes on. If you think all those are not a problem over there, go study a little of their culture. This can not atract censorship, but is far from being well seen over there.
IMO that's why she aways releases the controversal stuff as the b-side or less promoted side of a single were the main track is generic and easy-selling.... (Days/Green, fairyland/alterna, etc)

I refuse to accept the homoerotic themes in GREEN as controversial because it's way too subtle for the average person. Pro-women songs? I don't know if "controversial" is the word for that exactly... Daring, perhaps? But not exactly controversial. Other idols that came before Ayu have already entered that territory anyway. Ayu is certainly edgy sometimes, but I don't think she'll ever have the Japanese public up in arms. Anyway, I was talking about some of the religious themes she has used (the cross in concerts, Virgin Mary, etc.) and how they might be seen as controversial in America/Europe (everything involving religion is) whereas they wouldn't be in Japan because of the predominantly non-Christian population.

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

I don't think that the plastic surgery he had (drastic) and the supposed surgery that Ayumi has had can be compared.

Hey, I don't either. Don't shoot the messenger, lol.

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Aren't Mr. Children controversial at times? Or like.. She Who Must Not Be Named?

I would consider them both far more edgy than Ayu. I mean.. Ayu has haters and all.. but as far as I know she hasn't gotten death threats like She Who Must Not Be Named. That must mean something, right?