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Originally Posted by hsienko
Actually I'm right. Her 'team' isn't really her team, they're producers who's job it is to make music. It is as simple as 'she is presented a track,' because that's how things work, The music label will commission tracks for singers from these producers or the producers will make a song and then shop it around from label to label or singer to singer. To say otherwise is stupid because even Ayu has mentioned this system of 'being given several tracks and picking the one(s) she likes' in many interviews. And unless CREA appears in the album credits Ayu didn't have anything to do with the arranging or composition of the song. Writing lyrics and composing a song are two totally different things. Michael Jackson was actually involved with the composing, arranging, and overall production of a song unlike Ayu. And ayu isn't "irrelevant" because she didn't compose every one of her herself, not every singer is born with a niche for making music or been trained and schooled for years in music composition or can even play an instrument for that matter! Ayu sings, she is a pop idol, just like Britney Spears. They're both Idols. They're not musicians, they're not composers, they're Pop Idols.
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Originally Posted by hsienko
1. We were talking about the making of actual music not producing tracks because anyone can get a producer credit on an album it doesn't mean anything like how Max Matsuura is credited on every album.
2. You're over complicating what I said which was anyone can write lyrics to pre-recorded music whether I do it or Ayu does it doesn't change the fact that the backing music track was given to her and she didn't create it herself just like what I said before because you obviously didn't get it the first 3 times.
3. Dictionary definition: Musician - a person who plays or composes music, esp as a profession. Key words being composes and/or plays. Ayu is a lyricists: she writes lyrics. She neither plays an instrument or composes music so she's not a musician. She's a singer, a pop idol, but not a musician.
Pffft.......like I'm really gonna waste my time on that pointless ******** since Ayu already did it when she took Tomoya Kinoshita's track and wrote lyrics for it and then recorded her self singing said lyrics over the music.
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WOW! hsienko is the very first person on AHS that wrote exactly what I've been trying to explain back then.
I have been always wondering why everyone says, Ayu writes her own lyrics and stuff. She doesn't even plays an instrument nor does she writes lyrics by her own except of the few CREA songs. She basically has to give Avex's music a face / an image. I am OK with that!
Thanks for that great post, hsienko!