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Old 14th November 2015, 07:30 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree with Chibi-Chan on the matter of whore being degrading to women. It is, and there's no way around it. Whatever is your intention doesn't get a pass on that, much like calling men pussies, little girls, bitches, so on—it's a sexist term used to put down women. People do often use those terms on men too and that's just part of the big problem actually. Why do men get called bitches and pussies and little girls when they show weakness or emotion or aren't good enough at subject x? All those terms have relation to being a woman, being a girl and the intention is to belittle girl/womanhood because being a woman is bad, women are weak and less than men. Same goes to the word whore.

Someone mentioned how "people are just offended easily geez!!!1" but that's just not it. It isn't just us being easily offended, it isn't just us being special snowflakes, but these words actually have negative consequences and a whole history behind them and actual effects on women and how women are generally viewed.

I'm taking an example which are rape jokes. Ironically, I hear the exact same song "geez it's just a word/joke, I don't mean anything with it, you're easily offended you have no sense of humor!" whenever it's pointed out but with a little bit of googling you'll see it's actually studied and proven that rape jokes do decrease people's views on how serious rape is and increase the blame the victims face and so much more. It is how men (and women too of course; many women still live in the idea that they owe sex to their partners and pressured and manipulated into false consent is normal) normalize rape and sexual assault. Now rape jokes are much more serious than the term whore used but it's an extreme example I took to help you understand where we stand.

I think the whole "you're offended too easily" idea is because you've gotten used to all the offensive terms/jokes that when the people who it affects do finally speak up, you get pissed off because to you it's nothing and you can't get in the shoes of those who it actually hurts. It's not too long ago when I didn't think blackface was bad in any way but boy did I change my mind about that!

There's other terms you can use. Attention seeker isn't different from the intention you are using attention whore with, only one letter longer AND isn't degrading to women. How come is it that you are all so keen to grasp on the term 'whore'? I have my guesses honestly and it's got a lot to do with Chibi-Chan's point

The thing is whore, bitch, slut, etc. are STILL very much in use to describe women or prostitutes. It isn't a past thing like left-handed being evil or so. It still exists.

Some words are offensive and strong and they always will be. Changing the meaning doesn't do much. You don't go around yelling the N word and saying let's not ban that word, let's overly use it fuck those who are or have been physically attacked because of racism and the origin of that word!
Thank you so much! Bless this post! I can't stand those words because they are so demeaning. We use terms like "whore" and "slut" to use for women who are have lots of sexual partners, yet when men have lots of partners, they are oftentimes congratulated and celebrated for it. As "attention whore" goes, I get why it's used, and I understand that most people using it don't see it as very harmful, but it still has that connotation that women shouldn't be putting themselves out there and doing things that could get them noticed. "Attention seeker" (I think Chibi-chan said it) has the exact same meaning without the nasty subtext.

As for how this all applies to Ayu, I guess I'm just generally a very forgiving person. I overlook a lot and I forgive a lot. I feel like I'm one of those few fans who was never really bothered by any the relationship stuff that happened. It's really none of my business and it didn't really effect the way I feel about her or her music. When she tweeted that "bye my love", "hello my love" stuff, she was smiling in the picture. She looked happy with what was pretty obviously her husband. I think the whole situation got blown WAY out of proportion and that I completely understand why she decided to leave her Twitter to her staff. Just because she's a celebrity doesn't mean she HAS to put up with the negativity that is thrown at her. At least she bowed out gracefully instead of going on a Twitter rampage against the "haters" (like I've seen so many celebrities do). She seemingly took the higher road. People are just waiting in the bushes, expecting her to fail, especially with her relationships, so they twist whatever they can and throw it back at her. I wouldn't be able to last a hot minute under that kind of scrutiny, let alone nearly 20 years worth of it.