[Machiko]

That's why you shouldn't use it as an example. You wrote 7 lines equating rape jokes to the word used for pure shock value and 1 to say even you don't believe that. This is very insensitive to rape victims and a very low way of making your point coming accross.

It's absolutely not for "shock value", what are you even talking about? It was an example, an ANTI-rape-joke to help you understand my point as to why whore and other similar words should be avoided and why they are offensive, to take the background and their effects on women in history and in present into consideration. Somehow I feel like you don't want to even understand my point when your only argument against it is that I'm "insensitive to rape victims" when I'm absolutely the opposite.
Rape jokes are extremely common much like the use of degrading words such as whore, slut and so on. People who point out how disgusting and offensive rape jokes are, are told that it's just a joke, that they're too easily offended, that they lack sense of humor, exactly like here we're told whore is fine and everyday words to use, how they are just words and how we're just easily offended. The pattern is the exact same. Both have a part in sexism and degrading and shaming women and that is the reason I brought up rape jokes. I genuinely do not get your point how I am "insensitive"; isn't it you who insist on using a word that is sexist and offensive after being told so and not me? Isn't it you insensitive to all those women who have had to face the slam the word whore forces them to go through?
Saying that me speaking against rape jokes makes me insensitive to rape victims/survivors is completely beyond me. That's absolutely a horrible accusation to make and I really don't appreciate it. If something, that was low of you. I wonder if your point was to turn it, the blame & the attention around on me rather than trying to understand my point. Because this isn't what I'm saying, this was about what you are saying.

Why does the context matter? You are using a slur word with the only intention is to put down women. That's just it. You are using a sexist slur and what actually is your intention? Was it a joke? Because calling a woman a whore... I just don't get what intention there can be but to insult her? The purpose of those words are to belittle and insult and put down women. You can't just decide what a word already with its own meaning&history means and call it a day. What could possibly be your intention that doesn't make it as bad? Seeing you use that word here and now didn't come across in any other way but negative in my eyes and I fail to see it any other way. My question still stands, why not to use attention seeker instead? Why you feel the need to stick to the whore part that clearly people see a problem with? That if something says insensitive to me.

Black people using the N word is a whole different thing than white people, racist in particular using it with the intention of what it had in the past. They know better how to use it (however I still don't know how that word can be used in a non-offensive way? I don't follow rappers so I wouldn't know). I don't feel like that word's intention or meaning has changed the slightest, and I don't feel like it ever will and will avoid the usage of that as much as I can.
But using this to argue why using whore is fine: it still would very much not be acceptable (nor should it be!!!) for a white person to use the N word for a black person no matter what their intentions were, much like we shouldn't be using whore, slut or bitch with someone who isn't a close friend we know isn't taking it badly. I don't understand your fondness on this term so many people have issues with when there's perfectly fine alternatives.

I would love to see this same level of commotion every time there's a racist comment around here about japanese/east asian people, or when there are homophobic/transphobic comments about Timmy or Licco.

I have not even seen those, excluding the general hate Timmy receives for god knows what reason.
You're bringing this up when people disagree with you on the usage of a sexist, degrading word as if you're upset that you didn't get away with it like they did. You can defend Timmy and Licco too whenever you see those kind of comments and I'm pretty sure many people would jump in to agree, don't blame it on the people who are not there to see it and do something about it just because people disagree with you here right now.

Mannn, I miss back in the day when the Tumblr generation wasn't trying to police language bc of hurt feelings or whatever it is that's oppressing middle-class white girls these days

You mean the glorious days when you would not get into trouble for using offensive language that would cause harm to people that weren't you? I know, that must have been nice, not having to think about anyone else but yourself. We can't make rape jokes and call women whores and sluts and bitches and we can't use the N word or be generally racist, our freedom is in the past!! How will I survive. How dare people think critically and speak out when something is wrong and when I make mistakes I get called out on it... I can't believe I can't even blame domestic abuse against women on women anymore... Social justice never ever existed before tumblr!! Feminism and anti-racism was never a thing before tumblr!! Damn tumblr generation!!


I think the whole argument would have been easily handled by changing one word to another much less offensive, but like I've pointed out, there's a reason you guys are so clung to 'whore'. Anyway, I'll jump out of this situation now as I feel like I'll end up just repeating myself over and over again. Carry on!

I think the whole situation got blown WAY out of proportion and that I completely understand why she decided to leave her Twitter to her staff. Just because she's a celebrity doesn't mean she HAS to put up with the negativity that is thrown at her. At least she bowed out gracefully instead of going on a Twitter rampage against the "haters" (like I've seen so many celebrities do). She seemingly took the higher road. People are just waiting in the bushes, expecting her to fail, especially with her relationships, so they twist whatever they can and throw it back at her. I wouldn't be able to last a hot minute under that kind of scrutiny, let alone nearly 20 years worth of it.

I'm still really confused as to what did she exactly do wrong. She's completely free to leave social media sites whenever she likes and having to put up with gossips and rumors over the silliest of things I really can't blame her! I thought she did it gracefully by leaving instead of making a big deal out of it, but that's just me.