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Old 8th August 2019, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect View Post
Unfortunately, people, Ayu is a Japanese artist, not an American or European artist. And I know this is a lot to swallow, because diversity is only skin deep in the West, but Japan has a culture, that culture has certain traditions, one of those traditions is to not be the reason others gossip. So, arguing that this is perfectly normal for you and thereby perfectly normal in the context of Ayu is honestly shameful and ignorant.

We can all agree that relative to our own cultures, a lot of norms in other cultures seem completely nonsensical. But cultural relativism is racism. We're talking about Japan and Japanese culture. We're not talking about how much Japanese culture should approach this situation the way our cultures would approach it.
As someone who lived in Japan 8 years of their life.......errrr I disagree with this. I understand where you are coming from and your points, but tell all books are not out of the ordinary in Japan. For example, there were a number of explosive tell alls from former Johnny's members that describe rapes within the company and drug problems. As with many things, Japan has a double standard about this kind of stuff.

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It's pretty disappointing that Kuu can bring up expiring amniotic fluid and spend 20 years wearing lingerie on stage, and people think she's an icon, but Ayu can't get her personal live together enough to stop feeding the tabloid trolls every year.
I think you and Chibi are both being a little over the top and actually the ones who are over generalizing a culture. But that's neither here nor there. I just wanted to highlight this statement because Kuu is really not considered an icon in Japan. I like Kuu, don't get me wrong, but she has long been considered fairly irrelevant. And stating something like that makes me wonder if you really have a grasp on the pulse of the culture in Japan.

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^That playlist is avaliable on Spotfy too.

I just don't know if those are the songs written about him, or the songs mentioned on the book being them about him or not.
^ It's just the songs released while they were together I think. Not all of them are actually about him. M was their breakup song and came out in December of 2000. So they were together behind the scenes from 97-2000. She started dating Nagase in 2001.

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