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					Originally Posted by //ABEST  I wonder how far trainees are really forced to go in real life until they get their debuts. they show the hard training camp in NYC and that ridiculous runs just to have a chance to debut. I bet they won't go that far in real life but as we seen in KPOP, people are really going far and beyond just to have a debut. I actually wouldn't be surprised if big companys like avex (a victory) made people to run 10km and then have a debut like they did in series | 
	
 The little information I got on this is that Avex training is not that intense/in-depth. Years ago a documentary of Avex group Dream was aired. Some of the topics of it was the intense training they have to do after 7 years of performing with Avex to debut with the new agency LDH. At the time of re-debuting with LDH they noticed that even if they were experienced performers they lacked the abilities to do so. They even pointed a certain member who at time of re-debuting had null dancing ability. They showed video footage and it was pretty funny.