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Japan is much faster paced in terms of shifting popularity and releases, so the two markets aren't really comparable. Ayumi has already released what, 8 original albums? That's more than half the amount of original albums madonna has released in her entire career. She has released more remix albums already. IMO It would be wrong to say that Ayumi needs 15 more years, because the japanese market is so much faster overall. ALso it's xtraordinary to have the staying power of ayumi in japan, just like madonnas staying power is extraordinary in the west. Her record breaking proves this, no solo artist ever had that many number ones in a row. I see what you mean in your first post, ayu was never "dirty" in order to get success, but she was scandalous. So all in all I don't think the comparison is that bad. It's the closest we get I think.
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