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I mean, there is a difference between a moshpit and a moshpit. I also saw MUCC many times, also in Zepp Tokyo. Zepp Tokyo is big enough that you don't have to participate in it if you don't want to. Also, since it's like 99 % women, it's very tame. I'm not bothered of this kind of moshpit at all. But when it comes to the point where men kick (!!!) on purpose and actually try (!!!) to kick people outside the pit and also do it in halls were there is no room to escape, it's very shitty and destroys the experience for everyone else. This started somewhere around 2011 and I've seen teenage girls starting to cry and getting seriously hurt, since they were standing in the front rows, a few times now
I'm just glad I saw them before all of this started.
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