Do you truely still like ayumi?

[tetsuo69]

i was wondering cause there seems to be people in AHS that no longer like what shes doing... but still here...??? please be honest ... when you awser to this question... if so... why not move on...

[ZyreX]

I still love her, and I've always done so.. And will always love her.. <3 Ayumi..

[Shiso]

I loved her, love her and if she continues doing such beautiful songs (I still think her every new song is better than the previous one) I will still love her...

[Chrono]

Why do ppl interpret criticism as ayu hate? there are too many ppl here on this forum who think ayu is a godess, who can do nothing wrong, and everything she does is good, and if she sings off key it's style, she just perfect, she's my diva don't talk bad about her etc etc (im not talking about you, tetsuo, just to be sure)

that i think she is doing things wrong, doesn't have to mean that i don't like ayu anymore. there is more needed to get to not liking ayu than one partly screwed up album.

plus, this is an ayumi hamasaki forum, not an i love ayumi hamasaki forum. though alot of ppl think it is. scared to even say anything bad about this forum. scared to criticise other members. scared to be the ***** of the forum. scared to say ayumi just can'T sing. just some examples.

this is killing the forum. just look at it. what is this forum all about? only about how good ayumi is. i'll give an example. remember the thread some weeks ago, about ayu's hand movements? exactly what i'm trying to say.

That i'm still here, is because i sometimes like ayumi hamasaki, and sometimes i dont. and i want to express both feelings. why would i leave? only because ppl around here are ayu fanatics?

if you don't believe me. just try to find some august 2003 posts and compare them to the new posts.

[tetsuo69]

Originally posted by Chrono
Why do ppl interpret criticism as ayu hate? there are too many ppl here on this forum who think ayu is a godess, who can do nothing wrong, and everything she does is good, and if she sings off key it's style, she just perfect, she's my diva don't talk bad about her etc etc (im not talking about you, tetsuo, just to be sure)

that i think she is doing things wrong, doesn't have to mean that i don't like ayu anymore. there is more needed to get to not liking ayu than one partly screwed up album.

plus, this is an ayumi hamasaki forum, not an i love ayumi hamasaki forum. though alot of ppl think it is. scared to even say anything bad about this forum. scared to criticise other members. scared to be the ***** of the forum. scared to say ayumi just can'T sing. just some examples.

this is killing the forum. just look at it. what is this forum all about? only about how good ayumi is. i'll give an example. remember the thread some weeks ago, about ayu's hand movements? exactly what i'm trying to say.

That i'm still here, is because i sometimes like ayumi hamasaki, and sometimes i dont. and i want to express both feelings. why would i leave? only because ppl around here are ayu fanatics?

if you don't believe me. just try to find some august 2003 posts and compare them to the new posts.

calm down... yes i understand theres times ayumi aint perfect...cause not everything ayu does i see GREAT.... but i notice some people here just see everything ayu does is wrong so why not move on ? this doesnt mean you need to leave the forum....(not you) but you are also wrong if you think everyone here think of ayu as a goddess... cause lately.. i seen many topics such as (worst ayu year/ayu had surgery/such topics.. so i doubt people here view ayumi as a goddess.....


i'm sure after we stop to see something we onces enjoy/love
its cause we grown tire of it.. or isnt as great as b4...(other is we find some1 to replace such thing)

nuthing is enternal---and prob does here who no loger seem to be as hook with ayumi b4.. are afraid to admit they no longer like ayumi anymore or are afraid to move on...

b4 L`Arc~en~Ciel were my fav... but after i heard ayumi... i was super hook... after being with l arc for about 6years... i move on.. cause my new fav was ayumi and after 5years ayu still my fav.. but that doesnt mean i stop to like L ARC.... i still like them alot....

i might be wrong...but thats what i think... because for does who dont wanna admit they no longer like ayumi as b4 and dont wanna move on... might end up to hate her...

Why do ppl interpret criticism as ayu hate?

dont get the wrong idea... this has nuthin to do with sometimes view ayumi release or anything she do wrong.. cause its natural... no artist in this planet or human is perfect... everyone makes mistakes

[nmskalmn]

Yes, I still truely like Ayu.

There are lots of things I dislike about her (always have been). So what? She's an amazing person with flaws.

The forum is being killed?

[Chrono]

reply to tetsuo

you have to make a clear distinction between ppl who make the thread and ppl who just say 'nice'

all those negative topics, i think they originate form 2 or 3 ppl. plus, both topic can't be seen as negative. worst year, yeah.. worst. relative eh? and the surgery one.. alot of ppl say yes, but didn't mind.

it's not like it is more negative because every now and then such topics pop up. it's more like the whole tendence that is circeling around this forum. it's the tone of the forum, not only one or two or ten or twenty posts.

observe well, my friend, and you shall see. those ayu fanatics are definately here. in large numbers

[tetsuo69]

Originally posted by Chrono
reply to tetsuo

you have to make a clear distinction between ppl who make the thread and ppl who just say 'nice'

all those negative topics, i think they originate form 2 or 3 ppl. plus, both topic can't be seen as negative. worst year, yeah.. worst. relative eh? and the surgery one.. alot of ppl say yes, but didn't mind.

it's not like it is more negative because every now and then such topics pop up. it's more like the whole tendence that is circeling around this forum. it's the tone of the forum, not only one or two or ten or twenty posts.

observe well, my friend, and you shall see. those ayu fanatics are definately here. in large numbers

i never view them negative... ^_^.... just giving you a EX-that shes no goddness..
aint (god) supose to be perfect... so i doubt everyone here view her as a goddess if they think she had surgery or dont like some of her releases like ayu worst year/worst album/worst pv...

sorry ^_^ if i made any mistakes... its 5am here.. and i havent sleep mom is gonna wipe me

[tetsuo69]

Originally posted by Chrono
reply to tetsuo

you have to make a clear distinction between ppl who make the thread and ppl who just say 'nice'

all those negative topics, i think they originate form 2 or 3 ppl. plus, both topic can't be seen as negative. worst year, yeah.. worst. relative eh? and the surgery one.. alot of ppl say yes, but didn't mind.

it's not like it is more negative because every now and then such topics pop up. it's more like the whole tendence that is circeling around this forum. it's the tone of the forum, not only one or two or ten or twenty posts.

observe well, my friend, and you shall see. those ayu fanatics are definately here. in large numbers

i doubt are just ayumi fanatics that are like that heres a good ex-
namie-alarm poster...topic.. http://apollo.lunarpages.com/~ahsfor...threadid=15388 just cause i said it didnt like it... here were the results

Namie's too hot to be real, and it's a MUCH better poster than one by a certain artist whose initial are A.H.

so its not just ayumi fanatic that are like that... i'm sure you seen a pic of ayumi 2004 tour that is black &white with a haft mask.. that look smilar to namie poster alarm.. maybe not much... but i to dont like that pic of ayumi either.... but i guess that (afanforxx) was expecting everyone to like it...

so dont think are just ayumi fans that are like that... i'm sure in any artist forums... ull find fans that love everything their fav singers do... and i dont think its wrong.. cause its what they like...i worry what i like not what others..

[a1strank]

Of course I still love her. Ayu all the way ^_^

[Unimatrix Prime™]

If I had to rate my "fondness" of Ayu, I'd probably rate her an 8/10. I still like what Ayu does quite a bit, but it's not like what I used to think around early 2002 and prior, when I thought nearly anything she did was perfect. What makes things different from then is that I know more about Ayu's "flaws" than I did back then. I've heard some songs which are pretty bad to me. I've seen Ayu look less than glamorous. There's quite a bit I've seen/heard from her which I don't think were great, but I still find her to be one of my fav artists ever!

[tetsuo69]

Originally posted by Unimatrix Prime™
If I had to rate my "fondness" of Ayu, I'd probably rate her an 8/10. I still like what Ayu does quite a bit, but it's not like what I used to think around early 2002 and prior, when I thought nearly anything she did was perfect. What makes things different from then is that I know more about Ayu's "flaws" than I did back then. I've heard some songs which are pretty bad to me. I've seen Ayu look less than glamorous. There's quite a bit I've seen/heard from her which I don't think were great, but I still find her to be one of my fav artists ever!

i feel the same as you when i first heard her.. i thought it was really great,.... even came to think it was just perfect... but like you say after we get to know ayu more.. things change.. cause it isnt like when it first happen i guess its normal.. cause after you hear of the same artist songs over and over... its just isnt the same.. one of the reason i try also other artist is .. to not get fed up with ayumi only..

[SurrealDreams]

my hardcore days for ayu were around 2000/2001
im still here though, shes alright.

[Findlay]

Hmm maybe I'm weird sometimes I like ayu's new style while sometimes I'm neutral about it or dislike it. o_o I watched "Moments" on ayu ready? yesterday and it sounds really awesome, lol guess I always change my mind... ^^"

So overall I still like ayu as long she doesn't make her vibrato too long or her voice too coarse and nasal, and no roaring please... ^^ But oh well I love the old ayu for sure.

[idpeaceboi]

I LOVE Ayumi, I think she is the best artist out there, her lyrics are so touching, and deep. I have loved her since the beginning, and i will continue to Love her even after her career ends, b/c she is an amazing person.

[Corybobory]

Of course I still love Ayumi, she's my driving music! She isn't my favourite artist, never has, but she's right up there and I love her music. Plus I enjoy her image and think she is very beautiful.

[AfanforXX]

Originally posted by tetsuo69
i doubt are just ayumi fanatics that are like that heres a good ex-
namie-alarm poster...topic.. http://apollo.lunarpages.com/~ahsfor...threadid=15388 just cause i said it didnt like it... here were the results



so its not just ayumi fanatic that are like that... i'm sure you seen a pic of ayumi 2004 tour that is black &white with a haft mask.. that look smilar to namie poster alarm.. maybe not much... but i to dont like that pic of ayumi either.... but i guess that (afanforxx) was expecting everyone to like it...

I'm sorry, but i'm no crazed Namie zombie and I didn't expect everyone to like it like you think. Please stop making assumptions about people, because it's annoying. I just stated that i liked the poster more than that of the almighty A's poster. I didn't think that was a crime. I didn't care to read your post because i usually skip everyones post and give my post. Like Chrono said, every artist gets criticism and you obviously can't handle it, even if you say you can and do.

[jerms]

dude. chrono. chill out. lol. but yeah. i still like her. i understand wahtcha mean now. lately it sjust been more of a social place with what..a few new cms here and there. i doubt it goes as far as "disliking" her though.

[LX DAI]

Ownage, I don't love Ayumi, never have, probably never will. How can one love someone whom they never met before? There are two different types of love for one, love for your family/friends, and love for the person who holds most dearest to your soul. I HIGHLY doubt that anyone feels the second love for Ayumi and if you do, you are better off dead than to say you love someone else. That's just garbage there. Assumptions made? None, I was stating something without basing it on what others think so do not say I presumed anything.

As for Chrono, you forgot to mention me, sicne I am the #1 most flamed individual here and started some contraversal topics that lots of people hated me, probably still do hate me for.

I see people of variety everyday on here and in real life. It's natural for that, but to see insane obsessive people... I have seen far too many on Ayumi Hamasaki forums. Since I haven't been to other artist forums I can only imagine the same with them. For instance, let's move to the opposite sex and pick Eminem. I know some girls who ***** their pants over that guy, think he is everything, worship him envy him, and he if told them to stab themselves in their foot, I'm sure they would. Same thing here, I see the same type of people who act the exact same way and deny it. They will say one thing on a topic I made then go completely the other way on a different thread. I'm not blind to see these things and that's one thing that I do not like about people. It's just something I have to deal with though...

Back on subject, Ayumi, ayumi, ayumi... what am I going to do with you... probably restart my collection again. Sure I lik her a lot, but her stuff tends to get boring after a while of nothing new/interesting coming out. That's hwy I turned to DAI and Dirty Vegas and some other techno/trance artists. Th only Jpop I listen to is Hikaru, Ayumi, and DAI so not like I have much variety, nor do I want to be exposed to a ton more.

I totally agree with Chrono about too much pro for Ayumi and not enough con. Granted this is a pro Ayumi forum, but she's not perfect and there's only like 50 maximum threads that I've seen since I've been here out of a guess of 3,000 threads that were con for Ayumi. It's like people on here, not everyone, just some people, tend to make Ayumi their life. Why don't you just go and stalk her while you are at it if you are so into her? Find out where she lives and all that creepy stuff because it's bad enough to be THAT obessive over a singer.

Am I an Ayumi Hamasaki fan? Yes I am. Do I see more pros than cons? No, I tend to see more cons than pros because a person with more pros than cons is a very noble and generous person. IE; Mohandas K Gandhi. What has Ayumi done to save other people or help others besides consume and sell products to the mob w like to call the public? Hey, if she did a lot of charity and spent time with kids with cancer and all that, then I'd see her with more respect than I do now, but she is more self-centered than that. If you can prove me wrong about her generousity to the public, then show me some facts.

Damn me and my long replies!! Sorry to give you people an eye strain for anyone who reads my garbage. It'sj ust I like to include everything in my posts.


LX Mastery

[Chrono]

LX, I did't forget you, just didn't want mention you, not knowing if you would like that.

But you are very right when you say that only some ppl make ayumi their life. But it is also those that are ruining things