S.H.E fans views on copying ayu songs

[LacusClyne]

i know we are not to bash others artists. but this is something i can't stand and i think all ayu fans have a right to know.

this are the views of S.H.E fans of S.H.E songs copying ayu. well, i think most of them are being unreasonable. it's from S.H.E record company forum, in chinese.

http://www.him.com.tw/play/display.a...Page=6&Sig=she

for those who can't read chinese, i got a summary. most of the fans think it's no big deal in copying a song, as long as S.H.E sings it well. some even had the nerve to say that ayu must thank S.H.E for copying her songs. since people would get curious and pay attention to ayu's song!!! what a bunch of nonsense.

if you are a S.H.E fan, i'm sorry about this but i don't mean you. i just don't understand why there are some fans who don't know the meaning of neatual.

[ruixiong89]

Haha, I find their comments hilarious and whiny! Just to quote some:

"Some songs are hard on the ears, but as soon as SHE sings it, it's a huge hit!
Some artistes are not famous, but as soon as SHE sings their song, they're famous too!"

Not to mention the poems that praise SHE (eeky!)

Haha, I'm not trying to bash SHE fans, I think they're a cool band! But the fans are just hilarious with their comments. And haha, there's like no logic to their argument and moreover, it sounds very much like self assurance, like "No no, SHE is good, SHE is good, even if they copy, they're good!" (or you could say trying to justify to themselves why SHE is good)

So yup, here's my two cents worth! It's quite worth the read I have to say, I was laughing when I read the comments.

Haha. It kinda seems like, if you like SHE, you like whatever band or singer (artist) made up the idea xD
So like, if you hate some artist's song (or artist) and SHE sings it, and you like it, you just like....wtf am i talking about. Anyway thanks for the link. I can try to translate it (with help from the internet) if anyone needs it.

[Apprentice]

haha from your descriptions it sounds funny..

My friend who LOVES Ayu and SHE said that SHE's new song "星光 (xing guang)" doesn't even mean the same thing as "About You". It's about "friendship". The lyrics aren't the same, so, all the similarities are just a bit of the tune, I reckon. When you think about it, there's a lot of tune/music copying in the industry.

Fans will be fans~

[starr5245]

o.O hahahhahaaa, so many people agree that SHE is being wonderful. Oh, whatever. No comments.

[elepop]

I don't think S.H.E. copied Ayu. The beat just sounds a little bit the same. As for the clip, maybe it's just coincidense. Although they do sound quite alike (end of chorus). But I think it's really immature of those fans to say such things because clearly, Ayu is more popular than those 3 girls combine. I think that S.H.E. isn't that bad at all. I guess some of their fans are... immature. Everything they sing is a hit? Sure, whatever. I don't even get how they even got the nerves to say that Ayu should thanks them...

Really immature of those people, but hey. Some Ayu fans from this forum acted like that to.

[LacusClyne]

i was thinking maybe that was called blinded by love? the taiwan newspaper'ping guo ri bao' interviewed S.H.E, but the girls actually say the 2 songs sounds NOTHING alike!!!

well, i don't hate S.H.E, but i think it's their record company that made them say so...they can't have their artist admitting to the songs sounding alike, but that was a stupid thing to do, there will be ayu fans around who never thought that it might be the company's fault, they would simply scold S.H.E for saying that...

take a look at this taiwan avex forum and you would understand.

http://www.avex.com.tw/2004/forum/fo...=3&msg_id=3039

[nmskalmn]

If avex cared they would take legal action. If avex doesn't care why should I?

Haven't heard the song myself so I can't judge how similar it is.

[hopeorpain]

One thing I think is that the covered versions are no good. That's all

[emaNresU]

Originally Posted by asongforXX

I don't think S.H.E. copied Ayu. The beat just sounds a little bit the same. As for the clip, maybe it's just coincidense. Although they do sound quite alike (end of chorus). But I think it's really immature of those fans to say such things because clearly, Ayu is more popular than those 3 girls combine. I think that S.H.E. isn't that bad at all. I guess some of their fans are... immature. Everything they sing is a hit? Sure, whatever. I don't even get how they even got the nerves to say that Ayu should thanks them...

Really immature of those people, but hey. Some Ayu fans from this forum acted like that to.

Yea... its okay if they fall head over heels for S.H.E., but comments without actual backing realli turns people off! Moreover, i dun think its the Singers that we'd most pissed with, but comments by some immature one-sided fans...


Actually, if u realli listen closely to the song, the tune is almost identical... try singing About You the same time as the song by S.H.E. is played... i was able to do that and blend in with the music of the song, so they should be the same...

Not that i'm against S.H.E or anything, i actually like some of their songs... its those comments that actually pisses me off... Also, why don't they credit the original when doing covers? it'd be so unfair to the composer...

[ayuzilla]

o no not this **** again...this has pretty much already been posted...she biting off of Ayu blah blah blah. Both artists are produced by Avex ppl. yeesh get ur facts straight. so sick of hearing this whiny nonsense.

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by ayuzilla

o no not this **** again...this has pretty much already been posted...she biting off of Ayu blah blah blah. Both artists are produced by Avex ppl. yeesh get ur facts straight. so sick of hearing this whiny nonsense.

omg..if some people wanna discuss the SHE and Ayu issues they have the right to, but dont just come here and give rude comments without any arguable points, lacking originality

for those people who are just going to post here saying "not this again" or "get over it, this is old" save your time and just ignore this topic please~~

[ayuzilla]

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi

omg..if some people wanna discuss the SHE and Ayu issues they have the right to, but dont just come here and give rude comments without any arguable points, lacking originality

for those people who are just going to post here saying "not this again" or "get over it, this is old" save your time and just ignore this topic please~~

I typed paragraphs on the issue before and I'm too lazy to do it again. Just proves that stupidity continues on despite one's best efforts to educate the other. They are both produced by the same parent company Avex and its subdivisions respectively. SHE is not "copying" Ayu. Merely the stuff they produce is recycled. Thats the way both the music industry, fashion and even movie industry work. How many remakes of classic movies have you seen? or perhaps you might realize that last seasons trend in fashion might have been popular 20 something odd years ago? Get a grip on reality people. Neither SHE or Ayu have really anything to do in this. They just happen to be the two artists groups chosen to sing similar songs. Now all you people quit ***** and shut the **** up.

[ruixiong89]

Wow, I read the forum at Avex Taiwan ... geez! TONS OF FLAMING! Haha, well, the way they talk about it is rather similar to how the Taiwan Government is (Okie okie, no offence meant but I think it's really similar to how they pass sarcastic remarks!)

To sum up some of the arguments by the fans who posted at the forums:

"You don't even understand Ayu at all, who are you to say that Ayu sucks?"

"Ayu is a foreign artiste, why should you support her? SHE is the pride of Taiwan!"

"No matter what you say, the number of SHE fans will ALWAYS outnumber the number of Ayu fans" (OVERGENERALISATION)

"Avex Taiwan helped you all get to know Ayu!"

"SHE has heard Ayumi's About you and all of them exclaimed "It's not similar at all!" "

(I think it's very much a false statement. Seriously ... anyone in the right frame of mind and with any degree of musical talent CAN detect similarities! If SHE can't even do that, I doubt they can be singers. [I'm not saying that SHE sucks or anything, I'm just saying that the credibility of the statement that was published (which is supposedly by SHE) is very doubtful and I don't think it's valid so you shouldn't trust it])

"Thanks to SHE, Ayu is even more well known now!"

"It's quite common for Taiwanese artistes to cover songs of other artistes"

And more sensible arguments:

"People should stop saying who's copying who. Afterall, even if there's someone you want to blame, it's the composer. People seem to have forgotten that it's the COMPOSER that determines how the song sounds like, NOT the artiste. So people should stop slamming each other, Ayu and SHE!"

Have fun reading the "arguments"! I don't think we should dwell too much on this though ... haha, if not it'll be like the "Anti-Jolin" rage again! (Oh yar, just for information, the key reason as to why Jolin is so alike Ayu in her styles is fundamentally because the designer that "redesigned" Jolin's image [Before that, Jolin even spotted a slight moustache!] happens to be one of the key designers for people such as Ayu as well. Moreover, Japan fashion influences are very predominant in Taiwan and people snap up Japanese magazines on fashion. There is also quite a substantial Japan-following in Taiwan so don't be too surprised next time if something similar pops up again!)

[Aya Ariki]

Speaking the truth, there isn't a law saying that we can't support artist from other countries and we can only support artist that we understand what they are talking about...

I don't believe that they ONLy watch show in chinese...I know that a lot of Taiwanese watch Japan Drama and Anime.

[tinyppl]

That sort of ayu-bashing is just as expected. Most fans are out to be protective of their fave idols. But the SHE is more popular than Ayu thing is so wrong, just look at the cd sales.

Oh god although I am a chinese, I find it really tedious reading so many chinese characters at one time. Gives me a headache.

[Mad_Cactuar]

why doesnt SHE fans want to admit that SHE copied Ayu? Havent they heard both songs? At least admit that Ayu inspired SHE if they dont think it was copying.. I hate their ABout You, sounds dreadfully lethargic..

[TNeilson]

ahh, no matter what they did, i still hate SHE.

[LacusClyne]

but honestly speaking, i had to pity with S.H.E....they DID NOT write the song, they DID NOT shot the concept of the pv, but there will be people all over the world blaming them for it.

it's like being a scrapegoat...everyone don't like to be blame for something they didn't do, this applies to S.H.E too. why can't people spare a thought for them and try to think odjective?

Well, whatever the case, please try not to bring another forum's drama here. It'll only exacerbate the situation and bring unnecessary grief to Ayumi fans AND S.H.E. fans.