will jpop lose against kpop in its own country?

[a_kingdom21]

lookin the increasin kpop act who start their job in japan n knowin that they take a good start in oricon recently..
do u think that kpop will invade the japan music industry?
as for jpop itself recently only few jpop act that really solid in their sales such as akb48,b'z,mr.childrn n arashi..
n the rest r moderate in term of sales..such as exile..perfume n the sub unit of akb48..
the big names have been goin down hill recently like mika..aichin..kuchan..n other solo artist includin our beloved ayu..
even JE idols is startin to go down..
while around last month till this month kpop acts r hangin on top 10 oricon n sometimes topping the oricon..
some of them r easly breakin 100k in its 1st initial week..
as i can see other kpop acts begin to go to japan n getting moderate sales..
its so ironic watching oricon as the jpop chart dominated by kpop lately..
im not tryin to make this thread as a bashing thread or else..
i just want to know ur opinion with no bashing..
thx a lot 4 the attention

[terra]

Should we make another kind of this thread? *sigh*

[hearted]

kpop is really popular in japan right now, but i think that after awhile it will fade away and only the real popular ones will stay on top/stay known (dbsk, kara, boa, and soshi is getting there too)

but we will never really know what'll happen~

[Bubbly]

Well...I think it's always interesting to have something that is not from your country...you could also ask why all of us are in a Ayu forum and not in a forum about Madonna or an Artists from whatever country we are from

[Polyrhythm]

Without getting into my own opinions, you obviously don't even care about kpop and you just want to stir up ****. Another time dude.

[Kazeyomi]

I don't think so.
There's a kpop music wave these days, that's true. But I don't really think kpop can barely overshadow jpop.
It's just another trend. Period.

[murasakinohana]

I don't think so. Perhaps it's just the Japanese, being interested in a culture different then theirs. Just like how they have an obsession with anything American/Western.

[dreamland2.0]

Aren't most of the K-Pop artists releasing in Japan singing in Japanese anyways? Sure they are from Korea but they are trying to integrate into the J-Pop music scene. And they all sell the average number of what most J-Pop acts do nowadays.

[TofuBunny]

Originally Posted by terra

Should we make another kind of this thread? *sigh*

mte.

Of course not =/ .. Kpop is trendy in Japan right now so of course kpop idols do well on the oricon, i think that a lot of them will go back to Korea eventually but only some of them will be recognized as jpop artists like tohoshinki and BoA .. I see KARA getting there already, and snsd too.

Also, just because they're popular right now doesnt mean that Jpop artists like akb and ayu will suddenly stop being popular, so i dont see why the kpop trend is a problem for them

Originally Posted by a_kingdom21

im not tryin to make this thread as a bashing thread or else..
i just want to know ur opinion with no bashing..

Sure, chu-lips :

[Bad Wolf]

Um, no. It's a flash in the pan craze that will fade and make people look back and wonder why they bothered with it in the first place. Like every fad.

I don't really see why those K-pop artist intends to debut in Japan,,, doesn't make sense >_>

[pommy48]

Originally Posted by Aishwarya_Rai

I don't really see why those K-pop artist intends to debut in Japan,,, doesn't make sense >_>

they can sell more~

and Kpop is just a fad right now like how Jpop was. In Taiwan, it was all about JE and now Kpop is dominating the charts
People just like something new to listen to till something newer comes along.

[Bigtop]

Yeah, it seems unusual - the ones dominating are Johnny's groups, AKB48, and now Korean pop...

[hearted]

Originally Posted by Aishwarya_Rai

I don't really see why those K-pop artist intends to debut in Japan,,, doesn't make sense >_>

nobody buys cd's in korea thats why lol

[Paparazzi]

I don't understand why people like K-pop in the first place. For the last couple of years, all of the songs have been really cheaply produced and, well, for lack of a better term, absolutely retarded with some of the most basic melodies i've ever heard. J-Pop is a little bit better right now, but honestly J-pop is also ridiculously stale at the moment. The only good artists are Ayumi and Namie... umm, and yeah. Other artists occasionally put out decent songs but not consistently (Koda Kumi, Miwa, Miho Fukuhara). All these K-pop groups, Johnny's groups, and also AKB48 are honestly selling based solely on appearance.

[terra]

^ Well, sadly not everyone you generalize has great looks or 'sell' themselves on looks only. They could sing both KPop idols, AKB, JE, H!P or etc.

You're generalizing man, and that's awful. People have different preferences, so it's nothing to be confused about of Kpop being like :/ It's just the same when non Ayu fans ask why we like Ayu.

[Paparazzi]

^ I'm not saying they're bad singers, or bad dancers or put on bad performances, they simply sing and perform dollar store songs. they are some of the most simple and cheap songs in any major music market right now. i'm not generalizing, because it really is incredibly obvious and hard to deny if you really do listen to popular music for all over the world. Korean music hit it's stride about 4 years ago and just free-fell from there. on the other hand, J-Pop has had a slower decline is quality IMO and had a really long streak of amazingly high quality music from about 2002 - 2007.

I see,,, is あゆ still popular in Japan?

[terra]

^^ imo, they're artist controlled with agencies. They didn't have that much freedom as ayu, Hikki, YUI, miwa, Angela Aki or etc to do songs they want to do. To make things as they see fit.

They could sing operas, they could perform musicals, they could do other things than those dollar store songs. But because of the industry itself, and the demand from the listeners they went that way. Nowadays everything is almost money-oriented.

So it's not completely their fault. Maybe they're just finding a way that their talent could be recognized widely and to channel their desire to sing, nonetheless whether they're making their own music or not.

^ ayu still popular on Japan off course. In terms of positive or negative, I don't really know. But she has established a name to herself and that people would always refer to her as one of the greatest JPop singers.

[Kazeyomi]

Originally Posted by Aishwarya_Rai

I see,,, is あゆ still popular in Japan?

not as during her peak, but she's like a senior on jpop industry.


btw I'm kinda agree with Paparazzi.
I listen to kpop since ages, but nowadays it's just.. crazy.
Boybands and girlbands born in a couple of days and then they will fade in a couple of days as well.
BUT it happened in the jpop industry too, during early 00s.
I'm not bashing kpop, because I like listen to Wonder Girls, SNDS, After School and many others. But sometimes I'm really annoyed by the tons of catchy-bubblegum songs released at day, by another attractive members copycat girlband/boyband.