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30th June 2004, 09:56 PM
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Ayu Discounted DVD's - BUY THEM HERE!
Complete Clip Box
Arena Tour 2002 Countdown Live 2001-2002 Stadium Tour 2002 A Museum Yes, i'm aware they are bootlegs... If you don't like bootlegs, fine. I'm just trying to help some people out here. Yeah I ordered the Complete Clip Box... It's only 30 bucks and REGION FREE... I really don't have the money right now to spend on a region free dvd player and the overpriced Clip Box... so in the meantime I got the bootleg... I realize i'm gonna get crucifyed for this... but I kinda don't see the big problem... All of you have downloaded Ayu videos, and don't buy them afterwards, you burn them to DVD's... Don't even try to lie... I have the right to decide what I wanna spend my money on, I don't need lectures and anti-bootleg people on my back. I know what I am doing is wrong, I'm not funding Ayu... Neither are most of you... so I suggest you don't even try to say anything, because you will get caught in your own hypocrisy... Maybe instead of trying to get people to stop downloading music, we should try to stop music bootleggers... 
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30th June 2004, 10:02 PM
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It's one thing to download music, but it's another to buy bootlegged items...
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30th June 2004, 10:04 PM
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how? explain, by doing either, you're still not supporting the artist. And i'm aware of the whole "bootleggers are connected to more serious crimes, blah blah blah"
I am not endorsing bootlegs, and i'm not saying buy them, but the hypocrisy is annoying.
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we live in a society obsessed with, and terrified of, an organ that gives sustenance to babies Last edited by AfanforXX; 30th June 2004 at 10:07 PM.
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30th June 2004, 10:12 PM
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Here at AHS we have a whole section dedicating to downloading Ayu stuff... But we don't know what people will choose to do with the downloaded stuff... They could either burn it to a CD, not planning to ever buy it... Or just use it as a sample to decide whether the song is worth buying... Same with bootlegs, people could buy it and never plan to buy the real thing or use it as a sample to see if they like it... Stopping bootlegs isn't gonna save the world... I could care less what the people do with the money, drugs, prostitution... I only care about my satisfaction... Call me selfish, evil, whatever you want, but thats my view on it...
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#5
30th June 2004, 10:16 PM
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I always make copies of CDs I'm never going to buy...of artists that are usually less main stream or whatnot. I wouldn't buy these Ayu bootlegs though cos I want to collect her actual stuff but yeah I agree with AFanForXX and Phantoma, they're doing what alot of people do only...they're making a profit.
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30th June 2004, 10:18 PM
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I just don't think it's right to be getting a profit off bootlegs.
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1st July 2004, 01:07 AM
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I do feel bad... I had bought 3 Ayu CD bootlegs, this was at a time when I had no clue that they were selling bootlegs... If I had known I wouldn't have bought them in fear that it wouldn't have been good quality... The bootlegs were great, I mean the booklets were good, the CD worked fine. But I noticed there was no mention of Avex so I realized it was bootleg... I vowed not to buy any bootlegs anymore (for j-pop at least) but for lack of self-control I had to...
 It's not like all the Ayu items I own are bootlegs... I'm quite pissed they had to make a bootleg of the Complete Clip Box... DAMN THEM! Someday i'll probably more clearly understand why I shouldn't buy bootlegs... I guess I don't fully respect Ayu yet...
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#8
1st July 2004, 01:11 AM
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we had this concversation on AIM lready..:-P..
and no..i dont burn them to DVDs....maybe cuz i dont have a player...but thats not the point!! point is...ur helping ppl make profit off something that isnt theres, by downloading, no one is making a profit. Its bad, but not as bad as buing bootlegs
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1st July 2004, 01:24 AM
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just gotta say....what about ebay?...lots of people use it..and even if the stuff u buy is not bootlegs....ur still just buying it from someone else..and ur not helping the artist any...
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1st July 2004, 01:35 AM
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Bootleggers are people who make/sell fake copies of items for profit, whether it's using fake CDs, videos, or anything else which isn't real.
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1st July 2004, 01:36 AM
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this is where the Copy Control comes in...if it actually WORKED..there'd be less CDs on Ebay
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#13
1st July 2004, 02:06 AM
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Encouraging people or providing sources for buying bootlegs should not be tolerated in this forum. I also recommand, if we are to support ayu at all, downloading of ayu's merchandises (those on sale) to be prohibited except for limited, out-of-print items. Seriously, I think the majority of people who have downloaded will not purchase the actual items, though I do.
Last edited by Exile; 1st July 2004 at 02:13 AM.
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1st July 2004, 02:08 AM
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1st July 2004, 02:25 AM
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1st July 2004, 03:13 AM
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yeah...promoting bootlegged merchandise is not the way to go...you're really not helping too many people by doing this. hey, if i have the money, i'll just visit a local store or go to yesasia even and just get what i want. it's as simple as that. yeah, i download stuff from ahs, but i download CMs, and items i cannot get otherwise. if there was a "Complete Ayumi Hamasaki CM Collection", heck..i'd be the first in line to grab a copy..or three
 i have no reason to lie to you about anything..you just gotta calm down..no one is pointing a gun at your head and saying "Buy bootlegged cd's, dvd's, etc." i'd like to quote gohan in the entirety of his words because those are words of wisdom..take heed.
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Last edited by dCxAyumi1; 1st July 2004 at 03:17 AM.
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1st July 2004, 03:26 AM
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I try to purchase albums, but hey, like i said many times b4, im only 13 and i've spend over 300 dollars...its not a good thing to download, but make the effort to support her when u can
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#18
1st July 2004, 03:34 AM
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$25. That's cheaper then the bootleg you were financing. If you don't have the money to buy the "overpriced Clip Box," why don't you just save your money up until you have enough? That seems reasonable enough to me. Downloading is way different than bootlegging, as I stated before. Downloading is free. Bootlegging isn't free. Why give someone $30, when you can have it for free? And if you want it on DVD, burn it to disc. Or wait until you have enough money, then buy the legit thing. Or even buy a VCD from the link I gave you. If you knew people were going to be upset with you, then why did you post the links in the first place? Most of us will be annoyed with the fact that you're doing this. The one's who aren't, probably won't buy the items anyway. So what's the point? It's one thing to not fund Ayu. But it's another thing to fund someone else by not funding Ayu. Also, what's with your last comment? It seems that you've also caught yourself in your own hypocricy... Quote:
I don't think it's about respecting Ayu, I think it's more about knowing what's right, what's wrong, and how to know when something is too good to be true.
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#19
1st July 2004, 03:56 AM
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Why doesn't someone just close this thread right now? I really don't feel like arguing... You guys are such hardcore fans... Maybe I don't belong here... I really don't wanna fight with anybody, and I really don't want people to look at me badly...
As stated earlier... the bottom line is... Bootlegging or downloading you're STILL not supporting the artist... I posted this because I knew how you guys would act... Like rabid fanboys... It's kinda disgusting if you ask me that you should even care if Ayu loses um... a few bucks out of her salary... You should have simply ignored the topic... Sorry if I made it look like I was attacking people... I respect you all for trying to change my mind...
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#20
1st July 2004, 04:00 AM
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Either way you didn't learn your lesson and you're probably going to do it over again...
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