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25th July 2004, 06:41 AM
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Eyeballs 4 u!
Dream Basil (5:49:00 PM): hi
Sblade120 (5:49:04 PM): ey hi ho Dream Basil (5:49:21 PM): your mom is an eye surgeon? Sblade120 (5:49:30 PM): Well yea Sblade120 (5:49:35 PM): She's part everything Sblade120 (5:49:42 PM): She's more general Sblade120 (5:49:46 PM): like a beautician Sblade120 (5:50:02 PM): She does hair, nails, eyes, facials, massage Dream Basil (5:50:13 PM): does she know for sure ayumi got eye surgeory? Sblade120 (5:50:22 PM): hmmm Sblade120 (5:50:27 PM): I didn't ask. Sblade120 (5:50:48 PM): But she tells me that like alot of asians get eye surgery for the crease in their eyes Sblade120 (5:51:11 PM): cuz thats some kinda "fashion" and isn't considered "surgery" to alot of surgeons. Sblade120 (5:51:17 PM): Just cuz they think its so small. Dream Basil (5:51:28 PM): hm... Sblade120 (5:51:44 PM): You said her eyebrows are always brown right Dream Basil (5:51:48 PM): ya Sblade120 (5:51:53 PM): Well she could be a mix Dream Basil (5:51:55 PM): i think they use to beblack Dream Basil (5:52:02 PM): she was a swimsuit model Dream Basil (5:52:07 PM): with black hair and eyebrows Sblade120 (5:52:08 PM): hm Dream Basil (6:45:29 PM): she has the best nails Sblade120 (6:45:32 PM): whoa Sblade120 (6:45:38 PM): she looks like her eyelashes are fake Sblade120 (6:45:56 PM): you have an obsession with fake nails :\ Sblade120 (6:46:06 PM): Do you actually keep these pics in your comp? x_x Dream Basil (6:46:16 PM): thats my idol Dream Basil (6:46:23 PM): isnt she pretty? Sblade120 (6:46:24 PM): who is that :\ Dream Basil (6:46:29 PM): ayumi hamasaki Dream Basil (6:46:38 PM): thus my account name Sblade120 (6:46:41 PM): she looks like she was... Sblade120 (6:46:50 PM): surgically done Dream Basil (6:47:50 PM): i'd know, im like obsessed Sblade120 (6:48:00 PM): I dunno Sblade120 (6:48:17 PM): Still, she illulimates some fakeness Dream Basil (6:48:30 PM): where so? Sblade120 (6:48:35 PM): I mean there is no way she'd have those double eyelids without surgery Sblade120 (6:48:41 PM): no natural asian has that Sblade120 (6:48:55 PM): those little creases Sblade120 (6:49:13 PM): I know so many asian girls that get that surgically done Sblade120 (6:49:19 PM): cuz my mom is a surgeon for that Dream Basil (6:49:34 PM): so you think/know she has had eye surgeory? Dream Basil (6:49:36 PM): o.O Sblade120 (6:50:09 PM): eye surgery, the eyelids are so friggin long, hair dyed, even her eyebrows Sblade120 (6:50:22 PM): I mean unless she's half white Sblade120 (6:50:35 PM): is she? so ask your local surgeon! Last edited by LX Ayu; 25th July 2004 at 06:45 AM. 
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25th July 2004, 07:03 AM
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That dosent mean much. I can even admit that her eyes are quit big but I dont think its sergury. It could be, not a big deal.
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25th July 2004, 12:16 PM
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nah... i dun think it is a surgeory... it is just the advancement of cosmetics and make-up nowadays... =\ her eyes are originally that big.. just that her eyelid isnt that good... as for the eyelashes... there is always cosmetics that can make it look longer than usual... yah... cosmetics are quite scary nowadays... =\
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25th July 2004, 02:31 PM
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mmmm ermmm ummmm ^-^
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25th July 2004, 07:34 PM
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yes this subject again!
i didnt say she has surgeory for her eyes widening, that could be caused from the fat reduction over time when sh was young to now, but that second eye lid, the crease was the main part like he said and i totally agree after viewing around 100 different japanese professional models, they all lack that gene, the second crease fold... observe 2 models    See it?
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25th July 2004, 09:16 PM
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"No Asian has natural double eyelids."
I'm Asian and I'm the only one in my family w/o the double eyelid. That statement only partially applies to Asians from Japan, Korea and China. Besides, did you see Ayu's mom? She has big eyes like Ayu.
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25th July 2004, 10:02 PM
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In those pictures you showed, her eye lids look asian. Im confused abot what your asking to see?
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27th July 2004, 12:31 AM
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I HAVE DOUBLE EYELIDS! But I'm not Asian... :]
One of my best friends has very very thick eyelids - she's Korean - &she took pieces of tape, cut them perfectly &showed how she wanted her eyes to look. It was... disturbing, to say the least.
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27th July 2004, 08:22 AM
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i never said anything about her eyes being that big, im talking about the crease above her eyelid, so then we'll apply the double eyelid rule to japanese people, ill do osme research to see just how manay japanese people get this operation done and if their genes do lack the trait, and it can be aruged that they do lack the trait just like you'll never see a blue eye'd pure breed asian unless they were born with a genetic disease, so for that matter, you won't see a natural green eye'd asian as well
TOKYO (AP) - Risa Arato never liked her hooded eyes - even her friends said she had a perpetually stony gaze. And she hated the way her sunglasses slipped down her nose. But the clincher was meeting her estranged father for the first time since childhood and being told she hadn't turned out very cute. So the 19-year-old saleswoman decided to remake her face - and to do it on Beauty Colosseum, a prime-time Japanese TV show in which people get free makeovers on camera from a panel of "beauty experts" including a cosmetic surgeon. "I used to be afraid to show my face in public - I was a real indoor person," said Arato. "Now I can look people in the eye." Facing less social stigma and encouraged by new no-scalpel procedures, women are more than ever changing the face of Japan by walking into cosmetic surgery clinics and walking out with rounder eyes, bigger noses and fewer wrinkles. "Cosmetic surgery used to have a shadowy reputation," said plastic surgeon Toshiya Handa. "It was the kind of thing you only heard about celebrities and bar hostesses doing." When he isn't redesigning faces on Beauty Colosseum, Handa is the assistant director of the Otsuka Academy of Cosmetic and Plastic Surgery, one of Japan's best-known cosmetic surgery chains, with 14 clinics around the country. The country's decade-long economic slump has hardly put a blemish on the business. By one credit agency's reckoning, spending on cosmetic surgery climbed to around $25 million US last year, up 50 per cent from 1994. Cosmetic surgeons say insecurities about typically Asian looks can be partially explained by Japan's long infatuation with images of the West - Arato said she idolizes Julia Roberts - though most of the clinic's testimonials simply describe anxiety about looking plain. What has changed is the stigma about getting surgery. Conventional wisdom once held that altering the face inherited from your parents was disrespectful or just vain. But Arato, who had surgical enhancements to her eyes, nose and chin, said her folks supported her decision. Nowadays students, working women and homemakers are picking out new body parts from Otsuka's glossy 111-page catalogue. Handa credits a trend toward a more assertive brand of femininity that has even made jet-black hair a rare sight on Japanese streets as more women go in for dye and tints. "These women want to make the parts of their face stand out," he said. "This is about self-expression." Still, something of the stigma remains, judging by how many of the women who appear on Beauty Colosseum and in myriad magazine testimonials do so under assumed names. Risa Arato, for instance, appeared on TV under the name Saori Toda. Attitudes toward cosmetic surgery have also been dramatically reshaped by a new generation of cheaper, noninvasive techniques that aren't permanent. Doctors can create double eyelids with sutures in 10 minutes for as little as $400. Other in-demand procedures include injections of botulium toxin A - a wrinkle-buster popular in North America - and hyaluronic acid, a tissue-filler from Europe used to enlarge noses and chins. The treatments last for months before the substances are absorbed by the body, and doctors say there's less risk of allergic reaction than with older injectables like collagen. "It's a low-risk, low-return formula that appeals to a conservative Japanese mentality," said Dr. Katsuya Takasu, who runs a national chain of clinics and is a regular on another TV show. "The worst that can happen is you go back to your old face." As television and women's magazines pitch the glamorous possibilities of cosmetic surgery into millions of Japanese homes, concern has risen about the risks. That danger was recently highlighted when police started investigating a Tokyo clinic after a 54-year-old woman died following liposuction. Others worry about damage to Japan's psyche, saying Beauty Colosseum is turning the complexes of individuals into a national obsession. But there's little sign of soul-searching among younger Japanese. Rina Hayashi, a 29-year-old homemaker, got wider eyes because she thought it would make eye shadow easier to apply. "It didn't change my life or anything," Hayashi said. "But once you do it, you think of plenty of other things about yourself you'd love to tweak." and more to come Last edited by LX Ayu; 27th July 2004 at 08:27 AM.
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27th July 2004, 08:51 AM
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I'm not quite sure what I think about Ayu's eyes, but I do believe that those kinds of eyes can come naturally for an Asian, but it's not very common, but in Ayu's case, I think she got surgery because it's a fact that a lot of Asians get that done, and in Japan looking good is a top priority in making sure to sell things well, so I think Avex believed that Ayu had good looks, but that her eyes lacked a bit, so they changed em. If you look at previous pictures of Ayu, she has always had large eyes, but they were widened a bit, and now she doesn't have the exta fat on the bottom of her eyes, and she has the "double" lid thingy, or whatever you wanna call it. K... hehe I'm done. Oh btw this is an OPINION for those of you who wanna argue with me about this lol
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27th July 2004, 12:50 PM
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i'm sick of this.... leave her alone!!! it's her life, her eyes. She can do what she wants. it's not your business. if she had fake eyelids made by cosmetic surgeon thats fine, it's nothig wrong and nothin' special to talk about!!!! get away from her!!!
anyone... please close this idiotic topic...
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27th July 2004, 01:36 PM
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haha never noticed this untile this topic was brought up, i hav double i lids too
 Anyway to me ayu eye just looks more or less the same with a few changes as she gotton older. Then again if she had eye surgeon then so be it.
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27th July 2004, 05:07 PM
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 wow thisi s why this forum owns! thanks, i need the laugh, but on a serious note, you shouldn't need to get so defensive/aggressive over this issue. likei state in almost all my threads, you don't like it then don't post it, if you truly believe that i should "leave her alone" then i could say the same about everyone in this forum who reads up magazine articles on her, quotes her, mimics her in any slightest way, because those can all fall under the same catagory besides, not like im bothering her, only relationship i have with her is that she is having my child(jk) other than that she dosnt know of me im not saying that it's definate that she had surgeory, its just a commonly talked about subject, since when i show my other guy friends and girl friends pictures of her they all say the same thing "she has fake written all over her" so yeah, ill get away from her ::moves away back to my state in ny....wait ive always been here:: anyway, im still searching around for the double eyelid gene, i just want to nail her on this, she wasnt born perfect nor pretty, i'd say she was an ugly duckling from her olde pictures then turns into a sudden swan, ontop of that stardom and fame enhances beauty simply because they become idolized for traits any other person has but since stars are mor known, they some how become prettier...
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