Ayu's identity & song theory

gohan · #1 8th July 2003, 02:34 AM

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~Ayanami~ · #2 8th July 2003, 07:22 PM

Well first of all i have no idea about ayu's song's being written in different cases.

secondly, her name. The name "Ayu" is used by her fans. it's what her fans call. like a nicname basically. Ayumi Hamasaki is her actual name of course. This is all the basic stuff but the way u write about it, it sounds more than that. like there's another side of ayu no one has ever heard of, or something like that. But that's a very interesting theory, gohan

mimika · #3 13th July 2003, 07:51 PM

if u've been to masa's site gohan, therez actually have an article that talks about that...basically when ayu is using all caps, she wanna appear to strong...

go to:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/morimasa/ayu.html
for more info!

Kaiousei · #4 15th July 2003, 05:25 AM

very insightful....

mimika · #5 15th July 2003, 05:30 AM

masa has a lot of insightful and detailed analysis of ayu articles on her site...it like those very much 'cus itz not easy to get such info on the net...especially outside of japan

if u're interested in those kinda analysis critique sort of article and you also understand...i recommend www.ongakuen.com ...haven't seen them update for a while but GREAT website with articles written by ppl that are very talented!!

Piccolo · #6 15th July 2003, 05:30 AM

Wow I never really gave this much thought. I just thought the songs were titled on however the guys felt like writing them, like some form of engrish, haha. They way her name is spelt I think is practically the same. If they are all in caps they may be trying to emphasize something, but I don't really think so. It's just different ways to write different things in my opinion.

averageone · #7 17th July 2003, 05:59 AM

I never thought about so much in depth about the song names.. just thought it would be pretty to type it some way or another.. good thoughts. Intresting points. Are you a philosophy major?

..and I once saw connected spelled like this => c.o.n.n.e.c.t.e.d

Wonder if that meant anything...

averageone · #8 17th July 2003, 06:34 AM

Ayu has a way of doing that.. huh? Her lyrics always have this way to move me someway. It's all very beautiful. I suppose I like it because.. sometimes, if its a depressing song, and I just want to hear a song I like.. Without knowing the real words. Know what I mean? I don't know Japanese, so I have a benifit-of-a-doubt-ish thing whenever I just want to hear something that just goes with my mood.

But when reading her lyrics.. I relate to them and it helps me think that I'm never really alone with much. I'm glad I was able to find these boards, finding other people who feel the same way about things like this. I always got from my Non-Ayu-fans friends "You're too obsessed with her." When I'm just listening to her music a lot and reading her lyrics to help me pull myself out of a down period of life.

She's sings a lot of ballads. It just proves that no one is always happy. People have down points. And everything must come to an end..

mimika · #9 17th July 2003, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by averageone

But when reading her lyrics.. I relate to them and it helps me think that I'm never really alone with much. I'm glad I was able to find these boards, finding other people who feel the same way about things like this. I always got from my Non-Ayu-fans friends "You're too obsessed with her." When I'm just listening to her music a lot and reading her lyrics to help me pull myself out of a down period of life.

i completely agree with u on that averageone...

sometimes when i'm down and sad and i feel lonely

i listen to ayu's songs and read the lyrics

i'm touched by her lyrics

her lyrics tell of wat i feel

i feel that someone in this world really understands me

someone knows how i feel

ayu's lyrics give me support

her voice gives me strength

she helps me release the unhappiness i feel inside

becuase i know someone in this world understands me

~ mimika

averageone · #10 17th July 2003, 07:35 AM

What a past with Ayu..

The first song of Ayu's I heard was "M (Above & Beyond Mix)" I'm a huge DDR fan, even bigger back then, and I found this song as a DWI file. (DWI - Dance with Intensity... DDR using the keyboard arrows to "dance") Anyways.. I went on my vaction to Vietnam and made a CD with DWI songs I had. I reluctantly put M on there. And ironically, I fell in love with the song. And when I cam back.. I DLed as many Ayu songs I could find. That's where I found "evolution" and things started to go from 2 songs from Ayu to almost all her songs..

I decided to look up some stuff online about Ayu and I found sites with her pictures. I thought she was an attractive woman. So I found more pics... but then I started to wonder what her songs were about. That's when I started to read some of her lyrics. When I first read the lyrics to M.. I almost cried. The last line got me the most. I couldn't believe such words were sung so beautifully. I always appriciated another poet's work. And I adored Ayu's.

And everything.. sort of lead up to now. I still adore Ayumi's lyrics and I like the changes I see in her. In her words. She's matured as a poet. And that's beautiful. She maybe hidden behind a "cutesy image" but she's matured. I can see and I can feel it.

I suppose taking her seriously to that extent might me a bit too far. But to each they're own. I think of her as another human being on this planet. She is here just like the rest of us. And she's using her power to spread her thoughts, her mind, and her heart to the world. We all do that. But on much small amounts. So if you take Ayu seriously to that extent.. it'd be safe to take people that seriously too. Or else.. you might just have too high of expectations of people and that way.. you'll be let down. And being let down too much, needless to say, is a bad thing.

I'm just throwning my two cents into it. Sorry if it was not my place or if I overstepped some lines.

appears · #11 18th July 2003, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by gohan
The person who talked on the interviews always referred to Ayu, in third person, which made me think there was more than one person inside ayumi hamasaki.

in japanese u can refer to yourself in the third person, altho this is rather childish... altho they often mention a significant distinction between <ayu> and <hamasaki ayumi> so i think ur right about there being more than one person... she is 2people, [HAMASAKI AYUMI] & [ayu]...

Quote:

Originally posted by gohan
I tried to wear off my depression by listening to BEST at the time to let the songs grow on me. I remember listening to Boys & Girls and Fly high on non-stop since they were the only true upbeat songs in BEST.

what about [Who...] didnt u feel happy / tranquil after listening to that at the end?

Vinh · #12 24th September 2003, 10:39 PM

I dunno if it's been answered in the posts... too long to read and I'm short of time~

But...

Is it true? That Ayumi Hamasaki isn't just one person? She's actually 3 people...?

I'm so confused and... yea, confused o.o;

sxesven · #13 24th September 2003, 10:45 PM

No, she's just one woman. We were more talking about several Ayu's in a schizo way. Not really of course, but well... just read it carefully. Gohan explained it all pretty well in the first post.

Squally · #14 24th September 2003, 11:32 PM

Wow, so much insight. Damm, Ayumi is the greatest...lol

hamayumisaki · #15 25th September 2003, 12:48 AM

Hm,
Those sure are deep thoughts
I also start thinking of all sorts of crap whenever I get way to bored.
Some existance thoughts and such.
As for case letters don't bother to think about thiose.
All japanese singers have diferent letters for each song.
It confused me a bit too at the begining but now I am fine with it.

I think that all capital letters express determination...

AznkidoOo2 · #16 25th September 2003, 02:26 AM

Well hope Ayumi well be full of happiness..And forget about the Sad things that happened