Forgiveness Lyrics

emi♡ · #1 13th September 2005, 10:05 PM

i was listening to the song the other day...and i just wanted to know if anyone knew what she says at the end of the song.....

it goes..."...itaiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...something else."

ohsixthirty · #2 13th September 2005, 10:09 PM

http://ayumi.primenova.com/lyrics/forgiveness.htm

unless you mean the english part...and thats already posted here in the forum somewhere, try the search function, i'm sure it'd be easy to find.

actually, here:
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25010

emi♡ · #3 13th September 2005, 10:16 PM

yeah the english lyrics...thanks

walking proud · #4 13th September 2005, 10:28 PM

The english lyrics are very disputed XD

Chibi_Venus · #5 13th September 2005, 10:40 PM

Yeah, whenever I sing forgiveness on my CD, I switch from both English lyrics that I've read.

**Love Appears** · #6 14th September 2005, 02:23 AM

But I wanted only keep my love
*Every cardinal sins
*Every immoral things
But I was holding on for my love

(*These two lines are often disputed. Some even say it's "Every promise is, Everyone forgives". There are so many variants. But nobody can really be sure, being that the English lyrics were never officially published.)

Chibi_Venus · #7 14th September 2005, 02:30 AM

I once read in a post that the lyrics were similar to yours, Love Appears, but instead of "Every forgiveness" it was "Every moment lives". I'm actually unsure of the 'lives' part. It might've been a different word.

The lyrics are said to be "cardinal sins". Is it really 'sins' or is it possibly 'sings'?

**Love Appears** · #8 14th September 2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibi_Venus

I once read in a post that the lyrics were similar to yours, Love Appears, but instead of "Every forgiveness" it was "Every moment lives". I'm actually unsure of the 'lives' part. It might've been a different word.

The lyrics are said to be "cardinal sins". Is it really 'sins' or is it possibly 'sings'?

Well, if you're thinking of cardinal as in the bird, I suppose "sings" would make better sense.

However, in the context of "cardinal sins", it may be referring to the definition of cardinal as in

1. Abbr. Card. Roman Catholic Church A high church official, ranking just below the pope, who has been appointed by a pope to membership in the College of Cardinals.

In other words, a holy member of the church.

***nmskalmn*** · #9 14th September 2005, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Appears

However, in the context of "cardinal sins"

The meaning of cardinal in this context is 'foremost, main, primary'.

**Love Appears** · #10 14th September 2005, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn

The meaning of cardinal in this context is 'foremost, main, primary'.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Every "primary" sins? It'd make much more sense in the case of a member of the church. "Every cardinal sins". People aren't perfect, hence the concept of forgiveness. That's my opinion, anyway.

***nmskalmn*** · #11 14th September 2005, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Appears

I don't necessarily agree with this. Every "primary" sins? It'd make much more sense in the case of a member of the church. "Every cardinal sins". People aren't perfect, hence the concept of forgiveness. That's my opinion, anyway.

"cardinal sins" is a very common phrase and it means primary, fundamental sins. I believe that among Catholics (correct me if I'm mistaken) the cardinal sins are "Anger, Gluttony, Pride, Sloth, Envy, Greed and Lust". Please try searching for the phrase on google.

It does not mean sins committed by a Cardinal.

**Love Appears** · #12 14th September 2005, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn

"cardinal sins" is a very common phrase and it means primary, fundamental sins. I believe that among Catholics (correct me if I'm mistaken) the cardinal sins are "Anger, Gluttony, Pride, Sloth, Envy, Greed and Lust". Please try searching for the phrase on google.

It does not mean sins committed by a Cardinal.

I stand corrected.

I feel pretty embarrassed now. I'd never heard of the phrase. I've heard it referred to as the "seven deadly sins", but not "cardinal sins". I guess Ayu is just well-versed.

Thanks for pointing it out, though.

sora-kara · #13 14th September 2005, 03:19 PM

It could also be 'carnal sins'
carnal - Relating to the physical and especially sexual appetites.

That's always what I thought it was...

Mad_Cactuar · #14 14th September 2005, 03:32 PM

Isnt there a professional lyric on any official site? How about requesting it from AVEX? I think this topic has been going on for quite some time already.. I always mumble during that part, hehe..

Qt Mashi · #15 14th September 2005, 03:50 PM

^ yeah cant find any official lyrics of the ending, maybe ayu wants us to listen very very carefully and find out for ourselves

Delirium-Zer0 · #16 14th September 2005, 04:50 PM

I could swear one of her TV performances of the song had the english part subtitled as well as the rest of the song... and it was the lyrics that Love Appears said above. I have no idea which live of the song it was though...

ohsixthirty · #17 14th September 2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

I could swear one of her TV performances of the song had the english part subtitled as well as the rest of the song... and it was the lyrics that Love Appears said above. I have no idea which live of the song it was though...

i've heard the same.

also, my friend said at the karaoke bar she goes to they had the english lyrics listed as the "cardinal sins, immoral deeds" line.

Chibi_Venus · #18 14th September 2005, 08:16 PM

Me too. In an earlier topic about this, I remember... gosh, who was it?... RAISKA, yes. I believe it was her saying she saw the lyrics on A museum.

Yup, like Qt Mashi said: Ayu's making us think. *get out of my head! x_x*

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn

I believe that among Catholics (correct me if I'm mistaken) the cardinal sins are "Anger, Gluttony, Pride, Sloth, Envy, Greed and Lust".

Do you know what anime came to my mind after reading this?

Never mind... *tries to go back to topic*