"no rain can't get the rainbow" - does this sentence annoy you?

Zeke. · #1 23rd June 2011, 04:51 AM

I always kind of pretended it was "no rain can get the rainbow" as you can't really hear the "t" - although I think it is stated in official lyrics it is indeed "can't". Which to me, doesn't make sense...

"No rain can't get the rainbow" implies that all rain can get the rainbow, so it's not a very hopeful sentence. Perhaps it is meant to be read as "No, rain can't get the rainbow" as in "No, rain cannot get the rainbow".

What do you all think?

kagami · #2 23rd June 2011, 04:55 AM

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be like, without rain, rainbows wouldn't exist. In other words, without darkness and pain there can be no light and beauty. Something like that. I think it's a very powerful sentence and says a lot with just a few simple words.

#3 23rd June 2011, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kagami

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be like, without rain, rainbows wouldn't exist. In other words, without darkness and pain there can be no light and beauty. Something like that. I think it's a very powerful sentence and says a lot with just a few simple words.

YESSSSS. Explained it perfectly. What a great line, huh?

pommy48 · #4 23rd June 2011, 05:02 AM

It makes more sense if you read it as "no rain, can't get the rainbow"

Without rain...you can't get the rainbow~

**zoomzoom** · #5 24th June 2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy48

It makes more sense if you read it as "no rain, can't get the rainbow"

Without rain...you can't get the rainbow~

That's how I always got it, I never thought about it in another way.

kendelle · #6 26th June 2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by zoomzoom

That's how I always got it, I never thought about it in another way.

lol same! *_*

I thought it was quite obvious, really, but if English isn't someone's first language then maybe it's harder to get??

RAINBOW is one of my fave songs, PVs and has some of the best lines. It's the perfect musical capture of the sun coming out (happiness) after the rain (trial and suffering) and a rainbow appearing in the sky. The very essence of the melody makes me think of that

NintendoHTF1242 · #7 23rd June 2011, 05:04 AM

Without pain, you can't get happiness.

zellyx · #8 23rd June 2011, 05:12 AM

Wow thanks so much for this thread! It all makes sense now!
You can't understand the worth of true happiness without feeling true pain.

Yukitora · #9 23rd June 2011, 05:39 AM

In other words, accept the bad times because good can flow out of them.... I guess! I never got it til you asked the question lol, so thanks!

JackieRos · #10 23rd June 2011, 05:45 AM

I always thought that it meant happiness can't be touched by sadness.

like no rain can get the rainbow.

the rainbow can't be touched by the rain.

Zeke. · #11 23rd June 2011, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieRos

I always thought that it meant happiness can't be touched by sadness.

like no rain can get the rainbow.

the rainbow can't be touched by the rain.

Exactly - I would like it if this was what was trying to be said and I feel that part of the song where it changes from a somber progressing song into a glimmer of hope "feeling" - that those lyrics fit the song well at that point. How then she goes "lalalala" like everything is ok because as you said "happiness can't be touched by sadness".

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Originally Posted by kagami

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be like, without rain, rainbows wouldn't exist. In other words, without darkness and pain there can be no light and beauty. Something like that. I think it's a very powerful sentence and says a lot with just a few simple words.

I understand what you are saying but the sentence "no rain can't get the rainbow" really does not come across that way. I'm getting a brain ache trying to read it and comprehend it that way. Lol.

isthisLOL? · #12 23rd June 2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke.

I understand what you are saying but the sentence "no rain can't get the rainbow" really does not come across that way. I'm getting a brain ache trying to read it and comprehend it that way. Lol.

Really? The very first thing I thought when I heard it was that it's a quite beautiful(and very true) metaphor on happiness and sadness. Even if it's phrased awkwardly it's one of my favorite Ayu quotes. (And I'd actually hate it if it was "can", it would seem like a line people interpret too much into then while with "can't" the meaning is quite obvious)

SunshineSlayer · #13 23rd June 2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke.

I understand what you are saying but the sentence "no rain can't get the rainbow" really does not come across that way. I'm getting a brain ache trying to read it and comprehend it that way. Lol.

That's exactly what it means though and it's actually quite a common saying. Without experiencing pain and sadness, you can never actually understand and appreciate what the meaning of happiness is so therefore both experiences are equally vital in a persons life. "No rain, can't get the rainbow."

Oniisan · #14 26th June 2011, 06:41 PM

I always thought she sang "no way can't get the rainbow" before I read the lyrics. lol

qwerty · #15 27th June 2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

That's exactly what it means though and it's actually quite a common saying. Without experiencing pain and sadness, you can never actually understand and appreciate what the meaning of happiness is so therefore both experiences are equally vital in a persons life. "No rain, can't get the rainbow."

Beautifully explained. I always took it as "no rain, can't get the rainbow." The PV supports this interpretation. Ayu meets with her dark, haunted self and eventually embraces it by the end of the clip. In doing so, she finds happiness and realizes that without experiencing pain, she wouldn't know what true happiness is like.

majrakun · #16 23rd June 2011, 06:19 AM

After checking my A BALLADS copy, I just realised that "no rain can't get the rainbow" isn't in the official lyrics of RAINBOW. Hmm. From the way she sang it though, with the pause after "no rain", I've always assumed there would be a comma after it so it would read as "no rain, can't get the rainbow". Still an open possibility though since there's no official lyrics for that part and we might have been muddled by the translation over the years. D:

Ayu's English wasn't perfect that time, she was only starting to venture into the language, I assume. It relates to the rest of the lyrics as well.

Zeke. · #17 23rd June 2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by majrakun

After checking my A BALLADS copy, I just realised that "no rain can't get the rainbow" isn't in the official lyrics of RAINBOW. Hmm. From the way she sang it though, with the pause after "no rain", I've always assumed there would be a comma after it so it would read as "no rain, can't get the rainbow". Still an open possibility though since there's no official lyrics for that part and we might have been muddled by the translation over the years. D:

Ayu's English wasn't perfect that time, she was only starting to venture into the language, I assume. It relates to the rest of the lyrics as well.

I could have sworn somewhere it officially is "can't" ??

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Originally Posted by pommy48

The way that Ayu sings it in the song sounds like there's a tiny pause between "rain" and "can't"

And if you look at the lyrics

"If you have a pain hard to get over
Shall we share it and walk on?
Gathering pleasure too big for each of us
Shall we share them and walk on?"

It would work better with the "no rain, can't get the rainbow" idea because you can only experience happiness after you experience sadness/pain.

Ok makes a little more sense. Like she's saying "no rain, (you) can't get the rainbow" (you can't bring me down), etc.

But I am still curious, I could swear that somehow there was some kind of documentation that it was "can't" vs. "can"

But even with the pause, you could say she pauses after can't get as well. Doesn't make it "no rain, can't get, the rainbow"

I find it awkward to the proper form be "no rain," with the comma after the rain because then it's like all of a sudden she is speaking to the rain/bad time directly. It would make more sense for her to be making a statement like "no, rain cannot get the rainbow" (so don't worry, keep your chin up) as in speaking to the listener.

pommy48 · #18 23rd June 2011, 06:19 AM

The way that Ayu sings it in the song sounds like there's a tiny pause between "rain" and "can't"

And if you look at the lyrics

"If you have a pain hard to get over
Shall we share it and walk on?
Gathering pleasure too big for each of us
Shall we share them and walk on?"

It would work better with the "no rain, can't get the rainbow" idea because you can only experience happiness after you experience sadness/pain.

SURREAL__RAINBOW · #19 23rd June 2011, 09:23 AM

It always made sense to me, since I always thought of it the way pommy explained

I love it, to me it's one of the most inspirational phrases from ayu.

Earth_maiden · #20 23rd June 2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

It always made sense to me, since I always thought of it the way pommy explained

I love it, to me it's one of the most inspirational phrases from ayu.

Same here, there was never any question about the meaning of those lyrics for me. I think it's one of Ayu's best English phrases.