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☆ Utada Hikaru: The 46th Thread ☆
Welcome to Utada Hikaru's 46th thread at AHS ♡ Biography ღ Hikaru Utada was born in Manhattan as the only child of Teruzane Utada, a Japanese record producer, and his wife Junko Utada, an enka singer, performing under the stage name Keiko Fuji. Discography ღ (Japan) Spoiler:
Discography ღ (English) Spoiler:
Best of Albums ღ Spoiler:
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![]() And she can rearrange older songs to suit her voice better, what wouldn't be a big problem considering she always changes the arrangments anyway ![]() |
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Right now(as in latest Utada recordings/lives and latest Ayumi recordings/lives) Ayumi is easily a better vocalist than Utada, she doesn't destroy her own vocals the way she is singing. However for the longest time Utada definitely was better.
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For me that only time where Ayu was destroying her vocals was concert 2000. then she got better and better, and after some adjustment due to her conditions has vastly improved. But for me, 2002-2006 was ayus bets vocals. I mean that I am performance from 2002 is such a powerhouse
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^ LOL no matter what people say, Utada will ALWAYS have better vocals than Ayu. It's the fact.
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Pitch? Both are off half of the time. Range? Utada's useable chestvoice range is tiny and everybody can go high(and off) with headvoice. Strenght? Ayumi has a more powerful voice now. Control? Equally mediocre. Technique? Ayumi wins here(she lost before 2011) since she uses correct support and doesn't sing out of her range.
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definately. I hate their both techniques but their voices & vocal range are uncomparable, lol
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Considering that their chestvoice ranges are almost identical and headvoice is usually not considered part of a singer's range since everyone can naturally reach a huge range with it I don't see how they are "uncomparable".
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R&B stuff is gross.
Last edited by Zeke.; 23rd April 2012 at 06:52 AM. |
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You're gross!
Idk, I like her R&B stuff too. And she does sing it better live~ |
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lol maybe so, but at least she can sing her r&b stuff extremely well.
Automatic live is still nearly flawless (barring UU when her voice was going to hell - though it still sounded amazing) and it seems that she sings Automatic better with age. A lot of her experimental stuff is when she struggles to get notes out. Passion, Stay Gold, This is Love, Keep Trying (though again that was probably the worst live in UU because of her vocal issues) being prime examples. I still wouldn't call it vocal deterioration though. I just think she composes songs that are, often times, not in her range. Dear heavens, I almost typed "Is this Love" instead of "This is Love" my JPop artists are overlapping too much with song titles. Maybe Utada's song is the response song to Ayu's.
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Well we won't agree on that, but to me, Hikki has always had more powerful voice than Ayu, and no matter how much I love Ayu, I've never loved her for her voice
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I love how you state your opinion as fact without any reasoning aside you liking it while completely ignoring what I said. Priceless. Both are rather mediocre singers, the difference is that Ayumi improved like crazy while Utada has been around the same place, possibly getting worse.
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Let's not turn a reasonable discussion about Utada's voice into a flame war between Utada and Ayu fans please.
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um I can see where he's coming from with Ayu's improvement...
but...with all her screaming, and the tone of her voice now...I think hikki is a little more pleasant to listen to than her because even if she's progressively getting worse...she still sounds like her and okay. idk I saw her at In The Flesh, and I listened to the recordings later...I can see how her voice has deteriorated...but I think her songs help keep her afloat. I never want to say this in the Ayu section...but she kind of reminds me of Koda now. Just in the way that, Koda has the power, and is on key....but her tone is always so low and just not as ~pleasant~. I think it has to do with that anyway. Why people think hikki is still better. Ayu's tone is so obviously different...but hikki's isn't. Even though she's off key and whatever...a lot of people can't really tell those differences. They go by the sound...and hikki still has her same sound.
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I agree with ThisisLOL through... both are mediocre live singer with some good moments, and since Ayu started taking proper singing lessons, she got better than Hikki (but she still is mediocre). Hikki need proper singing lessons... Anyway, it's not like I think any of the 00s big female singers is amazing... most of them are mediocre, with one of them being just plain bad (Mika Nakashima). If u go for good jpop vocalists, the top of the charts is not the best of the places... edit: Tomiko Van was also a disaster on the golden age of DAI... Last edited by Andrenekoi; 21st April 2012 at 01:09 AM. |
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I can understand not liking her tone now. Ayumi's tone is something quite unusual and has changed a lot over the course of her career, but it's really not something making her vocals objectively bad so it's not something to use when calling one of them superior or inferior. When looking at the actual objective aspects of singing, control, pitch, range...Ayumi and Utada have been on a rather similar level for a long time but are going into opposite directions now, with Ayumi's vocals having constantly improved since 2008(after having gotten worse for a few years) and Utada's having been on the same level and/or gotten worse.
For Ayumi having improved like crazy...it's really no rocket science. If you know anything about vocals you will realize for the last year she has employed proper vocal technique, something she has never done before. Her range has been growing back to her old 2 octave chestvoice(it was around 1.6-1.8 octaves for a long time before lately, she had to stick to "safe" songs or transpose them to lower pitches), her pitch and control have improved greatly.
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I agree~ But, we both know people...and...they go by their opinions all the time. They'll be like "This song is better because I don't like that other song." All the time.
I also think, it's difficult to have everyone understand those technical things, especially if they're tone deaf lol what else can they go on? Oh well.
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