Ayu baby

[Yannetakizawa]

What will be the baby's name Ayumi if she has a day?
I think it would be an American name

Girl: Jennifer ? Tiffany ? Kate?
Boy: Tyson JR? Ronald?

Hahahahahahaha

what is your opinion?

[Chibi-Chan]

Could we please please please just stop to discuss anything related to women and their reproductive choices?

[MessiahofSilence]

^ That. This is weird.

[chocopockymaster]

How sad is your life that you felt the need to make a thread about this? Please tell me you're trolling.

[DonkeyKongRemix]

Let's see...

Orea, Crea, Cocoa, or Choko... You get what I'm saying, right? She has babies, but they're in the form of cute little doggies.

But seriously...this is a very odd thread.

[Yannetakizawa]

I don't know why you are so dramatic as a joke '--' this is something so normal among fans . I don' t understand the reason for the hostility of users

[MessiahofSilence]

Originally Posted by Yannetakizawa

I don't know why you are so dramatic as a joke '--' this is something so normal among fans . I don' t understand the reason for the hostility of users

It's because you're being sexist as hell, dear.

[Surreal17]

Agree. What's the big deal anyways? The user who started the thread said "if she has one", and not " she needs to have children". No one is putting pressure on ayu to have kids, its her own decision and life.

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by Surreal17

Agree. What's the big deal anyways? The user who started the thread said "if she has one", and not " she needs to have children". No one is putting pressure on ayu to have kids, its her own decision and life.

People are constantly expecting women to want to have children. The user also did. It's disrespectful to every woman out there. Some women want children, some don't and some even regret having them. If in the future we want women to have children only because they REALLY want to and not because everyone puts pressure on them by talking about them having children and what it would be like if they had children, then we should stop talking about it.
Honestly, there just was the discussion women had were they told how society put all this pressure on them to have children and how they regret having children. I think this is tragic and sad.
Only because you want to have children does not mean other also do. Make a thread about how you would name or named your children. But don't make threads about other women and their non existent children.

[Machiko]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

People are constantly expecting women to want to have children. The user also did. It's disrespectful to every woman out there. Some women want children, some don't and some even regret having them. If in the future we want women to have children only because they REALLY want to and not because everyone puts pressure on them by talking about them having children and what it would be like if they had children, then we should stop talking about it.
Honestly, there just was the discussion women had were they told how society put all this pressure on them to have children and how they regret having children. I think this is tragic and sad.
Only because you want to have children does not mean other also do. Make a thread about how you would name or named your children. But don't make threads about other women and their non existent children.

Some of you need to read this post

Edit: You need to understand the context and not assume people are offended because women are capable of getting pregnant. No one said that. Chibi-chan already explained it there pretty well. There's ALREADY pressure on Ayu to get pregnant and start a family, there's been rumors and all women are told their dreams are supposed to be revolved around having children. So it would be nice that when people point this out and explain it, you would sit and listen instead of turning our point into something it isn't and throwing that "lol triggered" stuff around.
It's also not about having and intention of being offensive. People are very capable of being offensive whether or not they meant it, and that's why people point it out. Whether or not they meant it, making a thread about Ayu baby names does put pressure on her to get pregnant, especially out of nowhere where she hasn't even said a thing about wanting a child.
Why dont you make a thread for dog names since dogs are clearly what Ayu wants and likes and most likely is gonna get more of in the future... and is even relevant

[Machiko]

This is just a way to pressure her (and women in general) to have babies. There is no point to this thread anyway, it's just plain disrespectful.

Could we please please please just stop to discuss anything related to women and their reproductive choices?

*Thumbs up* There's the reason

[Yannetakizawa]

only by speaking " If it in the future " My God! as you have the Ahs habit of distorting things.
as if it were sin to this topic , do not think I did anything wrong , much less feel like I'm breaking any rules forum.

I'm not forcing anyone to anything.

if it were to force someone would be easier to send a message to her, not make it through a forum that not even know if she knows .

so let's stop drama...
you are offended by such a small thing .

[Irish_Ayu_Fan]

I find it very sad how pissed off & bitchy people get when someone who clearly had no intent to be sexist or to offend anyone makes any kind of comment about Ayu having a baby. If you don't like the thread or the idea of it, could you not just keep scrolling instead of attacking the maker of the thread. This was merely a random thought of the user and by no means a malicious attempt to say that women have to have children or impeding on their reproductive choices in any way...

[JackieRos]

This is what I thought on reading people's comments.

Originally Posted by Irish_Ayu_Fan

I find it very sad how pissed off & bitchy
people get when someone who clearly had no intent to be sexist or to offend
anyone makes any kind of comment about Ayu having a baby. If you
don't like the thread or the idea of it, could you not just keep scrolling
instead of attacking the maker of the thread. This was merely a random
thought of the user and by no means a malicious attempt to say that women
have to have children or impeding on their reproductive choices in any way...

Exactly! Some women and men just like to get offended for anything, I have no idea how saying that a woman can get pregnant is considered sexist. Like ugh
most women have those reproductive organs obviously, men can't get pregnant. Whether ayu wants to have children or not that's her business.

Get over yourself with your triggered noise.

[xLuna&1LOVE]

^ So true, Irish_Ayu_Fan and JackieRos
Okay, so, the topic is odd, but I bet that the topic starter had no any intention to be rude or anything. And I don't know why you guys think that the topic starter thinks Ayu should have children, because I don't read this anywhere. Since we talk online, I also think we should not try to read something 'between the lines' because there is simply nothing. Whatever you believe in, you must be able to see that this person is not expecting or forcing anything on Ayu. This topic was meant to be fun, not to harm anyone. She/he probably did not know that it is such an issue in this community to talk about Ayu and babies. So, chill out a bit, and stop accusating this person of things he or she is not. You can't judge about this person's character.
The only one who really dealt well with this in the first five posts, was nalini-dahlia.

And when you have got really issues with this, and you are not able to say anything nice at all about it, why don't you just report it to Koumori or another moderator. This is so unnecessairly and really rude towards one member in our community. Regardless what the topic is about. Which was, in this case, not degrading Ayu or women in general. I am so sick of this.

[Chibi-Chan]

I'm offended by this thread. I'm offended the user asked which name Ayu would give her child in the future when she has one, because they assumed that's what women usually want: having children.
It's not my job not to be offended by sexism, it's the job of others to not be sexist.
Everywhere in this world women are expectet to want having children, regardless of what they want. You know what happens when you say, as a woman, you don't want children? People ask you if you had a bad childhood, they say you don't want now but for sure in the future, they call you selfish and egoist, they say this way you never will be happy. Every damn fucking time the topic comes up, I have to defend myself why I don't want children. Not that I would have ever asked any woman why she wants children - simply because it's none of my business.
If you don't get why expecting of a woman to have children, even if it's just inderectly, is sexist and offensive, then make a little research and search for statements of women who regret having children. I asure you it's heartbreaking and maybe afterwards you will be able to understand how much pressure there is on women.
There is so much pressure on us who simply don't want children and some just have them because they never were given the chance to think about an alternative way of life without children.
It is highly offensive to sugest women always want to have children. It would be totally different if Ayu would have told us she's pregnant and there was a thread about names for the child. But she did not. And only because women are able to get pregnant doesn't mean one should reduce them to that and bring it up whenever possible.
Talk about names you like for your children as much as you want, but like I already said, don't talk about other women, because that way you're contributing to the pressure that lies on us.

[Yannetakizawa]

you are taking it so personally .
but it was not my intention at any time.
I am also a woman, I know things are difficult , but you are exaggerating much because of some words

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by Yannetakizawa

you are taking it so personally .
but it was not my intention at any time.
I am also a woman, I know things are difficult , but you are exaggerating much because of some words

You were being sexist, it's simple as that. I never said you wanted to offend anyone, but intention doesn't matter when you're being offensive in the end.
Words matter, a lot. Otherwise I could call you an asshole and tell you not to be offended becaue it were just some words and not a slap in the face.
It's not like I'm angry or that I would think you're a bad person. No one here thought that. We were pointing out that what you said was sexist and some of us tried to explain to you why. That's all.
I would have wished that you would have thought about what we said, made an apology, told us you didn't thought about it like that until now but that you get were we're coming from and that you won't do it again.
I mean, I'm sure you just made this thread because you like children and want some. That's perfectly fine. But that's no reason to talk about another woman and her potential children when you don't know if she wants some or not. The decision to have or not to have children is a very personal one and in a world were women are expected to have children it's sexist to do exactly that.
You indirectly stated that you would like Ayu to have children. Try to imagine how offensive it would have been if I would have stated indirectly that I don't want Ayu to have children. Statemens like that are offensive and we shouldn't expect another woman to have/not have children because when it comes to this decision it's alone the decision of the woman and not the business of anyone else.

[Yannetakizawa]

And what would you say if you just speak this making an innocent topic in his own personal drama ?
In the country where I live it is so silly . There are no labeled by a comment like , because people know that this is a kind of joke .
Now do not know why the internet off people have been offended by so little, everything is " discrimination" , " Sexist " , " prejudice."
my God! It has just as much drama for something so small.
And another thing , I will not say something like "sorry " did not feel like I have offended someone , people are creating drama in this topic for nothing.

I love Ayumi and I will respect their personal decisions , but this is not something I'm talking to her , but to their own fans .
People ask many things within these topics , so I can not understand what the reason they think a name is you're forcing someone to something.
this is completely ridiculous more than own theme

[mi|kshake]

This was merely a random thought of the user and by no means a malicious attempt to say that women have to have children or impeding on their reproductive choices in any way...

I totally agree!

Can I just say as a woman who has never wanted to get married and have kids and still do not want to have children and can safely say this will not change, that I am not offended by this topic Yannetakizawa. Nor do I feel you are being discriminatory towards me because I am a female.

I always presume folk will assume I will be having children (although I think most who know me will know I will most likely be having cats!) but I am not offended by this assumption - to me it's just natural. I just expect them to believe me when I say I have no inclination to have kids ever.

Anyway, I would be happy for Ayu if she decides to have children despite not being maternal whatsoever myself and not bothered if she doesn't.