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Old 16th January 2006, 01:32 PM
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(miss)understood 3rd week sales

It's not actually out yet, but that Kinki Kids guy just reached no.1 with 92 thousand copies, which means (miss)understood sold even less.

edit: happy-san from ayuloveayu says the 3rd week sales are 82731. It's probably correct but I guess we'll have to wait for Oricon..

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Old 16th January 2006, 01:48 PM
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9.2万 is 92,000 actually...
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Old 16th January 2006, 03:08 PM
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Woah that's pretty low..
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Old 16th January 2006, 03:24 PM
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not to be mean or something, but .... that's why you need to open a new thread...?

... I think we have enough "weekly sales" threads in where you could write this "news" in.... or not? ....
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Old 16th January 2006, 05:32 PM
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Mmm... only because it sold less than 90,000 this week doesn't mean it won't reach the million mark
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Old 16th January 2006, 03:26 PM
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well i hope Ayu only sold a couple less than Kinki Kids ^_^"
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Old 16th January 2006, 03:32 PM
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^even if its just a little less, its really low
maybe it'll rise back up again *hoping*
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Old 16th January 2006, 04:22 PM
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^ i doubt it'll rise again, so sad but true Ayu should do something to promote it, maybe a handshake session!
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Old 16th January 2006, 04:42 PM
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I wonder how Ayu'll pull herself up into the million mark for this ~ :[

She can do it!
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Old 16th January 2006, 05:15 PM
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Does this mean that her fanbase has sunk about 50% the past year...?
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Old 16th January 2006, 06:31 PM
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Does this mean that her fanbase has sunk about 50% the past year...?
No, IMO it means that this album isn't as strong as many of her past ones and that the marketing for it was all wrong.
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Old 17th January 2006, 12:17 AM
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No, IMO it means that this album isn't as strong as many of her past ones and that the marketing for it was all wrong.
That's not true. Mp3 players have become the fever, a lot of people are just buying the tracks in mp3, separate, one of the reasons Utada Hikaru's sales have been so low. Plus the whole market of CD has kinda of been severely cut, maybe people don't care for carrying huge CDs onto their shelves anymore so they'd rather fill their compact players with the music they want to listen to. Albums like Mika's BEST and Koda kumi Best ~first things~ have been pretty low on sales since they're actually BEST albums, they would surely have sold way a lot more a few years ago (Koda has been pretty strong at the moment). ayu even manage to reach the weekly top of the global charts, shows how much physical CD items have been actually dropping in number of sales throughout the world.
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Old 17th January 2006, 01:53 AM
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one of the reasons Utada Hikaru's sales have been so low.
I would argue that hikki's single sales have gone down way too much to be accounted for by mp3 downloading and iTunes. Steady slight popularity declines + long hiatus to prepare and promote her English-language album I think have much more to do with it.
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Old 16th January 2006, 05:22 PM
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wait the minute i think ayu's sales will be higher than 92.000 maybe its 100.000 because That Kinki Kinds guy only at no 1 for 3 days after that his sales dropped drastically down to number 7 ~ ... the sales figure is a bit disappointing but
i guess its her fault... It is a great album ... and what a pity that it will not raech 1 million ~
She hasnt done anything yet to promote her album ...
All she does just perform the annoying song Bold & Delicious
She could at least perform Rainy Day / (miss)understood / criminal at kouhaku / Music Station Super Live or the CDTV special ..
big mistake by ayu ~
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Old 16th January 2006, 08:57 PM
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wait the minute i think ayu's sales will be higher than 92.000 maybe its 100.000 because That Kinki Kinds guy only at no 1 for 3 days after that his sales dropped drastically down to number 7 ~
how can ayu's sales be higher than the Kinki Kids guy when he already reached #1? shes most likely #2 n probably was off by a few hundred/thousand copies. so, ayu's 3rd wk sales are lower than ~92,000.

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hmm...I'm still going to wait for the final result, because the koichi album spent only 3 days as number 1 and went down to #7, so I'm pretty sure it's higher. Plus it's barely 4K higher than Mystory's second week sales.
well this is an early result, but the rankings are set in stone. only the numbers either go up or down. but, oricon rounds up/rounds down the numbers for the early results, so the numbers can move +/- 1,000 copies.

lets say 3rd wk was ~90,000. so, 654k+90k= 744k. thats lower than MY STORY 2nd wk sales. this will take longer than MY STORY to reach 1m. but i hope it does. if it doesnt, the rumours will start popping up everywhere.
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Old 16th January 2006, 06:39 PM
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well, in my opinion, ayu's record label knows what its doing and this album was heavily promoted just like all her other albums. Just performing another song on CDTV would not affect the album sales by thousands of copies. The album has been promoted through the new PVs and radio and... millions of other ways as well. I don't think its sales can be blamed on promotion. We are not record label execs. And most of us aren't even in Japan to see any of this promotion anyway, so how can we know how well it's being promoted?

But I've been on a lot of ayu forums and seen a lot of people criticize the promotion of many of ayu's CDs... and I honestly don't see a lot of basis for it.

On the other hand, I don't really think it's useful to scrutinize every weekly sales and wonder about ayu's popularity. Fact of the matter is, this album is selling about what was expected given what the singles sold, and really, its sales aren't half bad.

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Old 16th January 2006, 06:55 PM
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well, in my opinion, ayu's record label knows what its doing and this album was heavily promoted just like all her other albums. Just performing another song on CDTV would not affect the album sales by thousands of copies. The album has been promoted through the new PVs and radio and... millions of other ways as well. I don't think its sales can be blamed on promotion. We are not record label execs. And most of us aren't even in Japan to see any of this promotion anyway, so how can we know how well it's being promoted?

But I've been on a lot of ayu forums and seen a lot of people criticize the promotion of many of ayu's CDs... and I honestly don't see a lot of basis for it.

On the other hand, I don't really think it's useful to scrutinize every weekly sales and wonder about ayu's popularity. Fact of the matter is, this album is selling about what was expected given what the singles sold, and really, its sales aren't half bad.

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Considering the singles' sales, it should be higher. At least compared to MY STORY. Singles sold more than last year. But on the other hand, if one divides the sales of the singles on how many new songs released, the number is much lower.


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No, IMO it means that this album isn't as strong as many of her past ones
It seems like (miss) understood is appreciated a lot by fans ( at least english ones), so I don't think the musical quality is to blame.

Perhaps it's too much pure rock on this album, sompared to her other albums? Ayu has always been the queen of j-pop remember, and thus her fans must have been appreciating pop first and foremost. O.o
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Old 16th January 2006, 08:42 PM
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Singles sold more than last year.
This is not quite true. Even excluding "Bold & Delicious/Pride," the singles for "MY STORY" averaged higher sales figures.

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But on the other hand, if one divides the sales of the singles on how many new songs released, the number is much lower.
I'm not sure if it really makes sense to do this, because a single with 2 new songs does not automatically mean it will sell double what a single with 1 new song would sell.
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Old 18th January 2006, 02:53 AM
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well, in my opinion, ayu's record label knows what its doing and this album was heavily promoted just like all her other albums.
--my 2c
Just because it is being heavily promoted, does not mean it is being promoted right. B&D should not have been the main song which was performed at all of the end of the year shows and shows in early Jan. I think it's a fun song, but not a good song to promote a new album with, especially since it turns many people off. And yes, those TV performances do have an impact on sales. Then there is the cover art and title which definitely have an impact on casual shoppers when they look on the shelf and both the cover art and title could have been quite a bit better IMO.

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Perhaps it's too much pure rock on this album, sompared to her other albums? Ayu has always been the queen of j-pop remember, and thus her fans must have been appreciating pop first and foremost. O.o
I don't think that is it either. If it had been mostly pure rock on the album, it would be one of my favorite albums from her.

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oh yeah... the arena tour... that may help the sales a bit
I would doubt it. Anyone that is willing to fork over $80 for a concert would have likely already bought the CD.

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Old 18th January 2006, 03:44 AM
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Just because it is being heavily promoted, does not mean it is being promoted right. B&D should not have been the main song which was performed at all of the end of the year shows and shows in early Jan.
Well, I really think there's a reason why record labels choose to market things the way they do. They're not complete idiots or else they wouldn't keep their jobs long. Avex is actually really good about finding creative ways to garner fans for all of its artists. I think that's partly why so many popular artists right now are signed on avex or its affiliated labels.

So... you can say (miss)understood didn't outsell MY STORY because she didn't perform criminal at CDTV, but I personally think it's much more possible that some people just decided NOT to buy the CD.

I really think ayu's popularity is fine right now. She can't be expected to outsell her previous albums everytime a new one comes out. She's still very popular, people.

Also keep in mind that in terms of yen generated, she's still up there because (miss)understood was a more expensive album with the photobooks. That's no accident.

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