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Old 7th July 2006, 06:15 AM
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Unhappy AYU'S PRIDE

in my opinion,PRIDE is such a song just goes for those school chorus. everytime my CD missunderstood reaches this song, i just skip without hesitation. anyway,i'd talk a little bout its lyrics that ayu wrote. i thought she might be too weird. people are in envy of her freedom. so she answers:"doesnt it matter that i couldnt find the meaning of living?" i feel so cold~ on the contrary, i've found the meaning of living and i'm just struggling for freedom. it seems that ayu has wasted her freedom that didnt comes easy! why does she doubt whether it's right of us human beings to persue things we dont have all the time? or,how can we improve ourselves?
well then,at last, i'd shout out: CREA,come back! HAL,come back! single with remixes,come back! trance album,come back!
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Old 7th July 2006, 06:21 AM
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Not sure what you mean but I'll have to say usually, no one are COMPLETELY satisfied with the things they have... Usually, everyone envies (some don't) someone else of what they have... IMO, Ayu ALREADY has freedom (according to what you said) and didn't realise other people has been searching for freedom for a long time... THat's what I think... And as I said, not sure what u meant..

Btw, Pride is a nice song..
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Old 7th July 2006, 06:28 AM
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Old 7th July 2006, 06:42 AM
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i also don't get it...are you saying that the lyrics are wierd that she's contradicting herself?
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Old 7th July 2006, 07:01 AM
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in my opinion,PRIDE is such a song just goes for those school chorus. everytime my CD missunderstood reaches this song, i just skip without hesitation. anyway,i'd talk a little bout its lyrics that ayu wrote. i thought she might be too weird. people are in envy of her freedom. so she answers:"doesnt it matter that i couldnt find the meaning of living?" i feel so cold~ on the contrary, i've found the meaning of living and i'm just struggling for freedom. it seems that ayu has wasted her freedom that didnt comes easy! why does she doubt whether it's right of us human beings to persue things we dont have all the time? or,how can we improve ourselves?
well then,at last, i'd shout out: CREA,come back! HAL,come back! single with remixes,come back! trance album,come back!
mmm, I see your position
well, I never clealry understood all Ayumi lyrics
they were always weird for me

actually...mmm, I'm confused too!
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Old 7th July 2006, 11:26 AM
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I never liked this song as much as the other on the (m)u album untill I saw it live.

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Old 7th July 2006, 11:51 AM
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another of this thread.. lol.. anyway, Pride is the most saddest song i have ever heard. as in the tune.
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Old 7th July 2006, 12:30 PM
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i love PRIDE..
show something that powerful~
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Old 8th July 2006, 04:08 AM
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i love PRIDE..
show something that powerful~
EXACTLY! ^^ I LOVE IT TOO!
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Old 7th July 2006, 12:38 PM
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o__o Your post is very confusing.
"Doesnt it matter that i couldnt find the meaning of living?" is a very good line too. Overall, I love Pride's lyrics. It's very meaningful.
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i'm confused...but Pride is my favorite song on (m)u.
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Old 8th July 2006, 01:42 AM
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i think this song was way too american
so thats the point people hate it
but that era has gone and she has back with her usual style...and we love it!
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Old 8th July 2006, 01:59 AM
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^^perhaps it was just Geo.

I think it's good that Ayu portrays her love of American culture. It shows us more of who she is.
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Old 8th July 2006, 02:06 AM
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in my opinion,PRIDE is such a song just goes for those school chorus. everytime my CD missunderstood reaches this song, i just skip without hesitation. anyway,i'd talk a little bout its lyrics that ayu wrote. i thought she might be too weird. people are in envy of her freedom. so she answers:"doesnt it matter that i couldnt find the meaning of living?" i feel so cold~ on the contrary, i've found the meaning of living and i'm just struggling for freedom. it seems that ayu has wasted her freedom that didnt comes easy! why does she doubt whether it's right of us human beings to persue things we dont have all the time? or,how can we improve ourselves?

basically, the poster is saying that he doesn't like the lyrics to pride since s/he feels that ayu shouldn't be debating the meaning of her existance with all the freedom that she has--the same freedom that ordinary people struggle to obtain. He feels that ayu is wasting her time by debating such questions since ayu worked hard for her position and should enjoy where she is. Finally, the poster doesn't like how ayu seems to "judge" us when she questions why ordinary people strive for material things or how we should be improving ourselves.

Better? I don't know whether some things are what the poster meant, but I tried to read inbetween the lines as little as possible so I can give a clearer/unbiased picture..
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Old 8th July 2006, 10:51 AM
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basically, the poster is saying that he doesn't like the lyrics to pride since s/he feels that ayu shouldn't be debating the meaning of her existance with all the freedom that she has--the same freedom that ordinary people struggle to obtain. He feels that ayu is wasting her time by debating such questions since ayu worked hard for her position and should enjoy where she is. Finally, the poster doesn't like how ayu seems to "judge" us when she questions why ordinary people strive for material things or how we should be improving ourselves.

Better? I don't know whether some things are what the poster meant, but I tried to read inbetween the lines as little as possible so I can give a clearer/unbiased picture..
I think what Ayu is saying quite clearly in that song, is that no matter what your station is in life, whether you are an "ordinary" person or someone famous like her, we all want things we can't have. Like she points out that "ordinary people strive for material things", but that even with her station and ability to get any material thing she wants, she still is not satisfied. She's not saying it in terms of Celebrities are better than normal people, she is saying that this is a general trait of mankind no matter who you are.
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Old 9th July 2006, 01:08 PM
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basically, the poster is saying that he doesn't like the lyrics to pride since s/he feels that ayu shouldn't be debating the meaning of her existance with all the freedom that she has--the same freedom that ordinary people struggle to obtain. He feels that ayu is wasting her time by debating such questions since ayu worked hard for her position and should enjoy where she is. Finally, the poster doesn't like how ayu seems to "judge" us when she questions why ordinary people strive for material things or how we should be improving ourselves.

Better? I don't know whether some things are what the poster meant, but I tried to read inbetween the lines as little as possible so I can give a clearer/unbiased picture..
Thanks for the translation.. But can you tell what he meant by "school chorus"? o__O
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Actually, I doubt Ayu has more freedom than "ordinary" people...
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Old 8th July 2006, 04:16 AM
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How does she have more freedom than ordinary people?

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Actually, I doubt Ayu has more freedom than "ordinary" people...
True. We don't have paperazzis follow us around. We don't have people scruitinize our every move. We don't have tabloids making fake rumours about us. Not at least to the extent she faces. I mean, when was the last time someone posted something nationwide about you getting drunk in a gay bar?

Personally, I love Pride because it's not a mellow ballad. It's strong and powerful.
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Old 8th July 2006, 05:16 AM
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Actually, I doubt Ayu has more freedom than "ordinary" people...
I think the topic creator meant freedom as in material freedom. Ayu can do anything she wants with regards to money..
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Old 8th July 2006, 04:32 AM
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What?

Whatever you're trying to say, that's actually one of the few tracks I actually bother to listen to on that CD.
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