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Old 26th December 2007, 03:21 AM
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the person that passed away...

So, we know that someone important in Ayu's life passed away at the end of October/early Nov (right before HEYx3 recording).

Then, she has alluded to her in "untitled ~for her~" and with a message at the end of the GUILTY booklet.

The Japanese fan community is saying that the person that died is 豊田夏来 (Toyota(?) Natsuki).

According to here, she's a person that has been a close friend of hers since her debut. She appeared in the "For my dear..." video.

Thoughts? Is this the person?
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:24 AM
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The person was in that PV?! -goes to rewatch it-

EDIT: is she that really thin woman?

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Old 26th December 2007, 03:26 AM
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yeah i saw one distinct co-actress in the pv...the girl with a bun on her head?
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:39 AM
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yeah i saw one distinct co-actress in the pv...the girl with a bun on her head?
Yes, that was the thin woman I was speaking of.
tethevo, do you know if she's featured prominently throughout the PV?
if so, then that's her. =[
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:30 AM
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Man that'd be really really sad~ listening through the album really makes me feel so emotional towards Ayu.

Great album
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:31 AM
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I have no idea what she looks like. lol

More on her: Ayu and she lived together for a long time before.
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Old 26th December 2007, 10:52 AM
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More on her: Ayu and she lived together for a long time before.
how do u know that?
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Old 26th December 2007, 10:54 AM
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how do u know that?
It's written on many Japanese websites (of course I would never know for sure if this is true).
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Old 26th December 2007, 11:08 AM
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It's written on many Japanese websites (of course I would never know for sure if this is true).
ahhh icic thanks
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:38 AM
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Do you know how she died?
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:44 AM
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OK. If you look at the bottom of this page, it should be her at the bottom.

I don't know how she died but I remember reading somewhere that it was suicide (but I think that we can only say it's speculation at this point).
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:50 AM
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oh...that is really sad...
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Old 26th December 2007, 03:51 AM
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I don't know how she died but I remember reading somewhere that it was suicide (but I think that we can only say it's speculation at this point).
That would agree with the part of the lyrics that say, "You decided that day to walk alone, on that endless journey, over the clouds and towards the sky" etc etc. If that's what happened, I feel so sad for Ayu.
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Old 26th December 2007, 04:56 AM
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Oh man, I hope it's not suicide. Because you know? Lots of people who have close ones who kill themselves BLAME themself for not realizing their pain, and feel GUILTY because they weren't there to prevent it. Tough thing suicide is, because it only hurts the ones you love, not the people who did you wrong or whatever. This album's merit shot up like...by a million for me. I hope the real news comes out, so there's no more speculation .
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Old 26th December 2007, 05:02 AM
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Unfortunately, I doubt we'll ever get an official announcement or whatever. The closest may be Ayu mentioning how a person important to her has passed away in her concert (perhaps after singing some songs from GUILTY).
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Old 26th December 2007, 05:30 AM
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Unfortunately, I doubt we'll ever get an official announcement or whatever. The closest may be Ayu mentioning how a person important to her has passed away in her concert (perhaps after singing some songs from GUILTY).
yeah, i agree. i doubt very highly that we'll ever hear anything more official on this matter.
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Old 26th December 2007, 07:33 AM
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It's probably for the best. Such things really aren't our business anyway. But that would explain a lot now. =\
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Old 26th December 2007, 05:44 PM
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It's probably for the best. Such things really aren't our business anyway. But that would explain a lot now. =\
Yeah, I agree.
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Old 30th December 2007, 06:17 AM
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If it is true that her friend died of suicide.. that just gives so many new shades to some of the songs on GUILTY. Namely the title-track and (don't) Leave me alone. For some reason, after hearing that, (d)Lma really started to strike a chord with me when I hadn't really connected with it before.

This would also be another connection between Ayu's GUILTY and Kelly Clarkson's My December. Kelly also lost a friend to suicide this past year and wrote at least one song (Haunted) about her, though I suspect that a couple of others hint at it in the lyrics (One Minute, Hole). Weird, all these similarities in their albums/lives.

As someone mentioned before, I can only imagine the turbulent cycle of emotions Ayu has gone through... guilt being one of the big ones.

EDIT: When I read this on the page, it seemed kind of cold. I got so caught up in the artistic side of things, I forgot to say how bad I felt for both Ayu, having to go through this and for her friend, having to go through something so bad that it would drive her to end her own life. I'm sure Ayu feels the same as I do, wishing she had known and that she could have been there just to give her a hug and reassure her.

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Old 26th December 2007, 07:48 AM
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never knew that that woman was ayu's close friend before..
i thought that the woman who owned the peach john was the closest friend..because she seems to be everywhere with Ayu..

i also hope it was not suicide...
gosh this album is really deep!!!
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