Another possible inspiration for Ayu's PV - Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
· Ayu's Official Site · Ayu's twitter · Ayu's YouTube · masa's translations · Misa-chan's translations ·


Go Back   Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai > Ayumi Hamasaki Forums > Ayu Chat-Room

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 20th August 2009, 09:15 PM
SKYia SKYia is offline
Dolls Initiate
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Poland / K-ce
Posts: 3,423
Another possible inspiration for Ayu's PV

It may be a coincidence of course, but the moment I saw it I thought about Fated PV. Since Ayu has been often inspired by different movies this one may have also been one of them (it's such an amazing movie btw).

I'm from Poland, so when I heard that there's a Chinese movie based on a Polish poem and that they are reciting it in Polish I thought I want to see it. Did I mention that Takeshi Kaneshiro plays the read role?

The movie starts with such scene:





Two colorful umbrellas separated by lots of black ones. Just like in Fated PV, and similarly both belong to people connected by a fate.

(It's a movie about people who live next to each other, go to the same places, use the same means of transport but cannot meet each other)

At the end of the movie the two umbrellas can be seen again.



Unlike Fated PV the movie has a good ending and that's why the umbrellas are close to each other.



The movie is called Turn Left, Turn Right / Heung joh chow heung yau chow.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20th August 2009, 09:26 PM
JackieRos's Avatar
JackieRos JackieRos is offline
Curtain call Initiate
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 16,157
now thats what i call fishy coincidence
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20th August 2009, 09:27 PM
pommy48's Avatar
pommy48 pommy48 is offline
theme of a-nation '03 H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 25,148
haha it does look inspired by it and since the director was from hong kong and this movie was a joint project between singapore and hong kong, it's possible

and like the movie, even though ayu's love is so close away, but yet it's a far distance because they didn't know each other yet..or that they did, but still can't be together

( 金城武 )

Last edited by pommy48; 20th August 2009 at 09:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 20th August 2009, 09:29 PM
yuki_unmei's Avatar
yuki_unmei yuki_unmei is offline
still alone Initiate
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ♥in Chon-chan's Circus♥ (USA)
Posts: 2,570
lol.. someone watched that movie ^^
__________________


♫set by ownsarai♫
☆We are One, A World is One☆
♥ayu i love you with MY ALL♥

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21st August 2009, 12:50 AM
rakeru's Avatar
rakeru rakeru is offline
ourselves Initiate
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 4,715
i looked it up, and it sounds like a cute movie! i think the fated connection is probably just coincidence, though.
__________________



My travel blog
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 21st August 2009, 04:12 AM
ownsarai's Avatar
ownsarai ownsarai is offline
Born To Be... Initiate
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: where the Sexy little things Sparkle and sing Love songs (California)
Posts: 9,978
It may have been an inspiration, but I don't think it was a direct rip-off or anything.
__________________

♥sweet&simple♥
ღGraphic Junkies, UNITE!ღ
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 21st August 2009, 04:59 AM
ohsixthirty's Avatar
ohsixthirty ohsixthirty is offline
talkin' 2 myself Initiate
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 12,082
i'm sure if you looked the theme of colored umbrellas against black umbrellas is fairly common. i'm sure i've seen it in other places as well.

didn't she even use it in rainy day pv as well?
__________________

I just want to forget it all, without even saying "goodbye."
『Last minute』

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 21st August 2009, 05:32 AM
zoomzoom's Avatar
zoomzoom zoomzoom is offline
Rule Protector

 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: DK
Posts: 5,194
Quote:
Originally Posted by touchedstar View Post
i'm sure if you looked the theme of colored umbrellas against black umbrellas is fairly common. i'm sure i've seen it in other places as well.
Yea it's extremely common. It's not even filmed in the same way really. I haven't seen the Polish movie, but it's looks a bit random while glitter/fated is clearly supposed to symbolize what comes between ayu and the bodyguard.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 21st August 2009, 09:21 PM
SKYia SKYia is offline
Dolls Initiate
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Poland / K-ce
Posts: 3,423
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
Yea it's extremely common. It's not even filmed in the same way really. I haven't seen the Polish movie, but it's looks a bit random while glitter/fated is clearly supposed to symbolize what comes between ayu and the bodyguard.
It's Chinese movie. The scene is definitely not random. In Fated Ayu and bodyguard want to be with each other but they cannot, the people with black umbrellas do not allow them to come close at first. In the movie those two people were searchng for each other for 13 years but although they are so close they cannot see each other because of the crowd - metaphorically of course, they didn't meet each other for many years so they don't know how they look right now but even after they knew who they are, they wouldn't see each other because of the people with black umbrellas, there are many similar scenes later, this one is a well thought introduction to the main thread of the story.

Of course it's not filmed in the same way, why should it? Even if it was the scene that inspired Ayu's director he wouldn't film it exactly same way, it's not a remake, it's the idea that counts

I'd love to see more scenes like this one, you say they are in lots of movies, can you give at least few examples?



Really no need to feel insulted just because I suggested it might have been the source of inspiration. I thought it would be a funny trivia and not another reason for unpleasant comments. I'm not talking about anyone in particular but usually when somebody points out sth like this some people start saying that this is random, this is superficial, this was made after Ayu (even if it is older) and bash the other movie, commencial, photo, person, etc. Come on, nobody wants to insult Ayu in any way!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 21st August 2009, 11:57 PM
visionfactory's Avatar
visionfactory visionfactory is offline
ANGEL'S SONG Initiate
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chile
Posts: 5,432
Quote:
Originally Posted by touchedstar View Post
i'm sure if you looked the theme of colored umbrellas against black umbrellas is fairly common. i'm sure i've seen it in other places as well.

didn't she even use it in rainy day pv as well?
no , she didn't
__________________

My first J-pop cover album is out on Spotify! Please check it out!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 21st August 2009, 05:04 AM
fantasma3c's Avatar
fantasma3c fantasma3c is offline
Endless sorrow Initiate
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Around the world!
Posts: 1,822
Wooooooooah...
maybe its a sign from the goddess >.>
__________________

"I've come to find you will never be mine
Let's keep the secrets between us,
You and me, rest those tired eyes,
Tomorrows a Surprise, let's keep the secrets between us,
You and me.

It's getting harder to hold my breath,
Keep it in my chest, I'm sinking under the pressure,
I wish that I could just take it back let that time pass,
But now I'm stuck under pressure.

Although you'll never be mine your secrets safe with me"


Photobucket

This wonderful set was made by the spicy Pepper

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 21st August 2009, 05:07 AM
Polyrhythm Polyrhythm is offline
Liar Initiate
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,650
Whoa...nice catch @_@
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 21st August 2009, 05:24 AM
waterballoon's Avatar
waterballoon waterballoon is offline
count down Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lands of EDEN
Posts: 17,709
@poms: ??? A Singaporean participated in making the PVs? Whoa!
__________________

YAYAYAYA GAGAGAGA DADADADA WOWOWOWO

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 21st August 2009, 05:29 AM
pommy48's Avatar
pommy48 pommy48 is offline
theme of a-nation '03 H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 25,148
^ oh no, i'm talking about the turn right, turn left movie
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 21st August 2009, 05:48 AM
waterballoon's Avatar
waterballoon waterballoon is offline
count down Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lands of EDEN
Posts: 17,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by pommy48 View Post
^ oh no, i'm talking about the turn right, turn left movie
Oh lol I got too excited XD

@zoomzoom: I agree... but fated is a PV so there are less characters, and it's shorter, so it's easier to execute hidden nuances and symbolism, as compared to a movie. But I still like the whole umbrella idea... it's beautiful.
__________________

YAYAYAYA GAGAGAGA DADADADA WOWOWOWO

Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 21st August 2009, 10:20 AM
asmAyumi1992's Avatar
asmAyumi1992 asmAyumi1992 is offline
GAME Initiate
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Ipoh-KL, Malaysia
Posts: 5,799
The movie I think is really inspired by Fated.
__________________


Facebook
Twitter
Blogspot
Tumblr
Weibo

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 21st August 2009, 09:47 PM
octolina's Avatar
octolina octolina is offline
A Song for XX Initiate
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 336
Quote:
Originally Posted by asmAyumi1992 View Post
The movie I think is really inspired by Fated.
HAhahahahahah! ayumi has influence back in time !!! LOL





btw guys, it's not a polish movie, the movie is Chinese and stars superstar Takeshi Kaneshiro and Hong Kong actress Gigi Leung. It was a big hit a few years ago.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 21st August 2009, 10:22 AM
pommy48's Avatar
pommy48 pommy48 is offline
theme of a-nation '03 H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 25,148
^ the movie was made in 2003....
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 21st August 2009, 10:39 AM
yamadashun's Avatar
yamadashun yamadashun is offline
P.S II Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: malaysia
Posts: 1,031
i have the same thought the moment i watched fated.

esp the umbrella scene.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 21st August 2009, 10:53 AM
Ayumiko's Avatar
Ayumiko Ayumiko is offline
Dolls Initiate
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,450
Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYia View Post

.
umm what is that green thing in front of the umbrellas? It looks like poo...XD
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.