Ayu and Maro Relationship Thread II

[SKYia]

The only person who suffers because of this relationship is me :p I already lost Mitsu, now Maro.

When first rumors about their relationshiop came out I was worried that if anything goes wrong I'll lose one of my favourite dancers, now it occured they don't have to break up for him to disapappear from the stage. First Mitsu, then Gomi, now Maro.

I like Subaru and Zin but they are the happy ones (same with Gomi), I'm fine with them, I like them, but Mitsu, Maro and Shuya were/are honey for my eyes, I just love watching them on stage, now it's only Shuya, not fair

[douggn]

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy

Not sure why though... Seem like ayu still loves nagase the most, but situations makes them break up... Well, her lyrics from "missing" seem to suggest that.. Talks about how she understands how the guy felt when she ditch him. ( she assumes that he must have felt really sad when he's ditch, but she didn't really care at that time) so, ayu felt that she loved him still but it's too late to reconcile now..

Together when lyrics also suggest that...

Its pig headed to interpret songs lyrics and just put them to what you think they belong too. Ayu is older than us and a lot can happen in a year, with love/outlook on life etc, (im not but if your not 30, you cant understand ayu fully, we dont have the life experience) one person can not say why another has acted, only ayu knows + with ayu saying she keeps her personal life private, its just that. Just because she sings a song with lonely and regret tones does not mean shes singing about an ex ether, yet alone Nagase

[yamadashun]

so are we expecting another break up album after LOVE again?
Love songs > Party Queen
LOVE again > Lonely Queen?

or... Return Road ~EPISODE II~?

[pheonixflame15]

Another Return Road would be epic

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

For them to break up is a possibility, what else do you want with all these people criticizing her? And if they break up now the same people who criticized her for being with him in the first place are gonna criticize her for them splitting up? Give me a bloody break.

People can be so childish at times, just because you're seeing everything from the outside and don't have feelings involved it doesn't give you the right to be a c*nt, because you know, when you like someone or when you fall in love you could become the biggest idiot on Earth.

I couldn't care less if they broke up, or even if they stayed together, as long as he stays away from the spotlight for a while. I always liked him and I still do, but it's better that way for now.

[Jawdarna]

I hope that article isn't true, it's so heartbreaking. Someday Ayu's prince will come...

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

I think we shouldn't worry about this stupid article, and if they do break up, tough titties, who cares?

[Delicious n Bold]

Maybe we WILL get I Party Alone now!

[Jawdarna]

Yeah, I don't think anyone should worry about who Ayu dates.

We don't know her, and never will. Most people don't care about who strangers date. And she is a stranger, a high profile and 'well known' stranger sure, but still a person who deserves privacy...

I mean, I could understand why fans would care for her definitely. But it's not like we are her family. We can't say, "This person is not good for you," or, "I didn't think they would last," as we know neither person.

I think a lot of people have a problem with her lovers in her public image, but so many artists have used their partners in cover art, PVs, etc. She's not the only one and she will never be the last. It should just be taken as a pinch of salt and something that will be discussed in ten years time as a fun fact. xD

[maikaru]

The news is stirring... I saw it on an entertainment reel on news program, and at least 5 additional websites are reporting it...

And I said before, but Yahoo Japan is a very reliable source here.

[Bad Wolf]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

you cant really say that till they break up.
they have just as much a chance to die old grey and happy together.

I love your optimism, honestly

If the rumor is true, this is such crap for both Maro and Ayu. :/ If two people want to have a relationship, it's such a shame that it has to be blown up so publicly, and that it even has to be public news at all...

For a while now I've been thinking Ayu is kind of "cursed" when it comes to love. That's not to say she can never have a relationship that works out, but only that it seems like she's the sort of person who will find love, lose it, and find it again -- ad nauseam. Sure, that's true for pretty much everyone but with Ayu it seems to be a particular sore point since the beginning of her career both musically and as a "celebrity." It's like she's going to be made a fool of by love, but it's still something she won't give up on yet it's something that continuously causes her pain...

I'm getting esoteric and sappy, and I don't think I'm explaining my thoughts properly... but it just strikes me as the most crucial, core point of all of her songs, no matter what they're about, whether she's singing as a character or (presumably) about her personal life. How many songs from her entire discography either have love in their title or are about suffering because of love? There's a few that come to mind immediately:

LOVE~destiny~
appears
Because of you
the next LOVE
beloved
BRILLANTE
Days
(don't) Leave me alone
fated
forgiveness
GAME
HANABI
HANABI ~episode II~
is this LOVE?
JEWEL
Last angel
LOVE'n'HATE
Love song
meaning of Love
MOON
November
Over
part of Me
Return Road
1 LOVE
Together when...

Like I said, we can argue that all her songs are about love in one way or another, but these in particular strike me as rather painful, both for their optimism (in some) and others for how brutally honest and sad they are. I think "fated" illustrates this perfectly. It's ironic that the title and the first line makes you think about two lovers who are destined to be together, and yet it's all about how the speaker of the song is confused by illusions and reality. They don't want to let go of the dream that is love, and yet the song concludes that they will abandon the dream -- even if the person they love is right in front of them.

I think that's probably the best way to sum up Ayu's continual struggle as an artist: the dream is right there in front of her. She doesn't want to let go of it, she doesn't want to give up on it, but there will always be the impulse to give in and admit defeat. And then it goes around back in a circle, where the dream comes back, she gives into it, and then suffers for it.

/lame lol

[Minttulatte]

Didn't gossip magazines spread rumors of Ayu's and Nagase's break up once in a while since the day they started dating? I assume this is a possibility with Ayu and Maro because I've read many old threads here that were filled with those kind of things, too so there's probably something similar going on. I'd say that we shouldn't believe any gossip magazines until Ayu herself says she broke up with him.

[Bad Wolf]

Yup, people love to report that stuff. It's basically the fire that keeps the tabloid machine running lol

[Jawdarna]

Wasn't Josei Seven the same gossip outlet that initially reported that Maro and Ayu were dating in the first place?



EDIT: It was just the first magazine to print an article on the relationship that had been confirmed by Ayu and Maro's blog posts.

Obviously this one has no concrete proof like a blog post, so it's probably not true...

[mizuki-7]

There are the same gossips who said a few month ago that Ayu and Nagase was together once again lol It could be true but Ayu didn't yet makes a statement so I don't pay much attention at this !

[Bad Wolf]

at the very least we can trust ayu to come forward with this information in due time lol

[jennjenn2010]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

I think the break up and the death was the low point... (Guilty)
Next Level was a huge plus... rock n roll was okay... Love songs amazing.

Who died?

Originally Posted by artcika

all i can say is....

Omg lol Ayu should forget about Nagase, Mannie, and Maro and just marry Gackt!

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

I think we shouldn't worry about this stupid article, and if they do break up, tough titties, who cares?

Lol I love you for saying that.

[Delicious n Bold]

Next thread should be "Ayu and Maro The Break-Up Thread"

[Yarumi]

Is marriage in Japan a big deal? I think I'm in a culture obscured confusion state 0_o()


As long as Maro and his Ex are okay with dating other people then it shouldn't matter if they are technically married cause that crap takes forever to finalize. At least it does over here in the states. Is it this was in Japan? I don't really put any special feeling on marriage, it's just a ceremony and tax breaks. What matters are the feeling right?

Maro was a passionate dancer though ;_; If it was a publicity stunt wouldn't that have kept Maro on cause then everyone would have come to the CDL to watch every small movement the two made together.

Working closely with your staff can cause a lot of feeling to come into existence... I speak from experience. I'll bet it's even more of a tight knit group for Ayu because of the level of the production and traveling they all do together...

Personally I don't care who she dates. It's her life and I don't think her love life solely affected the quality of the material. Some of the things she has written about could be based on her family and friends experiences during the time right?

And I agree with whoever said Mannie needed some cleansers... but some girls/guys like the rugged look. I loved the PVs she did with him though. They had great chemistry!

[Bad Wolf]

I can't speak from any point of knowledge about Japanese culture when it comes to marriage, so instead I'll speak from what I think in regards to Ayu as a public figure, and the kind of scrutiny people hold to public figures. We forget that they're people and that people are flawed. We want to be able to relate to them, but never when they mess up or do things we don't like. Ayu associating with a guy who's basically on the road to divorce could be interpreted as, if anything, hasty and a little bit thoughtless.

This is me speaking as devil's advocate. Since I think this whole line of reasoning is just flawed and weird lol