[Charts+sales] A BEST 2 -- THREAD II

[pop909]

Now..ill get back to topic and predict that next weaks sales are 50k. Then 25k. Then 12.5k and 6k respectively.

is it me or is this best album dropping very FAST

[Peger]

Originally Posted by pop909

Now..ill get back to topic and predict that next weaks sales are 50k. Then 25k. Then 12.5k and 6k respectively.

is it me or is this best album dropping very FAST

(m)u and Secret dropped pretty fast too. I think Ayu might pull off a few weeks of consistent sales in the coming month given that this is a best album, but you never know.

well it could be more people are now downloading, therefore the cd sales get lower

I doubt that's it. I don't know many people who download full albums, usually they pick a choose some songs.

[waltz#2]

I just stopped in to check Ayu's (and Mr. Children's!) sales and I ended up reading the whole thread!

I think my definition of "success" and "failure" must be different from a lot of people. If a weak album with poor content gets #1, I think that's failure. If A BEST 2 drops from #1 to #100 overnight but stays in my stereo for weeks and its' songs make constant appearences on my mp3 player, I think that's success.

If someone doesn't like A BEST 2, hey that's fine. But don't use its' numbers as evidence that it "OMG sux0rz!" and think everyone should agree. There are artists I like that don't even chart. PULLTOP JUICE anyone?

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

But It's totally unquestionable that ayu put a lot more efforts into releasing A BALLADS than A BEST 2.

I think that's something only Ayu would know for certain.

In any case, HANG IN THERE AYU!

[babamon]

Yup. We wouldn't know how much effort she really put in in these albums. Only Ayu noes it herself. All we can do is to believe Ayu is giving her best for the fans.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by waltz#2

I think that's something only Ayu would know for certain.

In any case, HANG IN THERE AYU!

No, no, not only ayu would know, because it's obvious and unquestionable. We human beings are able to tell if someone's work was done with effort and dedication or whether they were a total lazy bum. Ayu did put some effort in releasing A BALLADS while she was a total lazy bum when she made this A BEST 2.
In A BALLADS she made a very great PV with loads of acting, etc. In the song RAINBOW she selected several messages from fans and created the song. It's rather obvious that she had a lot tougher moment when creating the song RAINBOW and its PV than when she made the mediocreness of "part of Me" song+PV. Not to mention, she RESANG You, A Song for XX and Who... . What else did she do for A BEST 2? she just sang part of Me, acted standing still in the PV, and that's all.
Now to make things even worse, look at A BALLADs covers and compare them to the A BEST 2 covers. For real, there's absolutely no doubt a BALLADS covers demanded a lot more work than the "bored ayu" face cover from A BEST 2.

[Peger]

These sales aren't that bad, i just hope she lasts longer on the charts. If she gets above 40k again this week i'd be bery happy

[Sim']

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

No, no, not only ayu would know, because it's obvious and unquestionable. We human beings are able to tell if someone's work was done with effort and dedication or whether they were a total lazy bum. Ayu did put some effort in releasing A BALLADS while she was a total lazy bum when she made this A BEST 2.
In A BALLADS she made a very great PV with loads of acting, etc. In the song RAINBOW she selected several messages from fans and created the song. It's rather obvious that she had a lot tougher moment when creating the song RAINBOW and its PV than when she made the mediocreness of "part of Me" song+PV. Not to mention, she RESANG You, A Song for XX and Who... . What else did she do for A BEST 2? she just sang part of Me, acted standing still in the PV, and that's all.
Now to make things even worse, look at A BALLADs covers and compare them to the A BEST 2 covers. For real, there's absolutely no doubt a BALLADS covers demanded a lot more work than the "bored ayu" face cover from A BEST 2.

Mediocreness of part of Me ? =/

Well... It's still your point of view after all, so I'll respect the fact you don't like thins song+PV, I won't discuss this =)

For the A BEST 2 covers however, I'm not sure you should compare them with A BALLADS but more with A BEST since it's A BEST 2;
They used the same style, meaning Ayu's face, that she can give a message just with the eyes-contact.
Those covers are more artistic than what you could imagine, Ayu don't need a beautiful dress, a beautiful hairstyle, a beautiful room and a beautiful smile with some beautiful things like in A BALLADS covers, they just need her, Ayu her-self, her talent & her voice, to present the BEST of her, as an artist =)

That's my point of view, everyone can see them how they want, but I personally prefer those covers than A BALLADS where Ayu is missing something, it's like she 'needs' the decors to show the beauty of the covers, not like A BEST/A BEST 2 ^.^

Oh, and still, you can't know if she made more effort for A BEST 2, some work can be hidden after all those obviouse things, maybe she sacrified a single to release this BEST, so not me not you can know, sorry ^^;

For sales, yeah, still poor in individual way, I would prefer 1,5 million both for the 3rd week, but well we're not THAT far, specially with all those releases, and the coming Ai am BEST =/
BESTs can chart longer than original albums, so we still have a chance for the 1,3~1,5, but I really do hope it'll reach 1,5 both in the final, even if it seems really hard yeah =/

I'm not trying to justifie Ayu's sales, still it's really POOR for a BEST of Queen of J-Pop [Please don't inclue Kuu-chan's name here, in your dreams v__v], but well, maybe I was waiting for TOO MUCH that I got deception =/

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by Sim'

[B][COLOR="steelBlue"]Mediocreness of part of Me ? =/

Well... It's still your point of view after all, so I'll respect the fact you don't like thins song+PV, I won't discuss this =)

I like, actually love, both the song and PV, but they both can't ever be compared to the grandness of both song and PV for RAINBOW. It's a fact.

For the A BEST 2 covers however, I'm not sure you should compare them with A BALLADS but more with A BEST since it's A BEST 2;
They used the same style, meaning Ayu's face, that she can give a message just with the eyes-contact.

I was comparing the release of A BEST 2 to A BALLADS, not A BEST, reason why I compared covers. I do know the intention was to make the A BEST 2 cover to somehow look like the A BESt one. However, that has absolutely NO relation to which of those covers actually had much more work either for ayu or her crew. A BALLADS covers were a LOT better worked than those other two.

Those covers are more artistic than what you could imagine, Ayu don't need a beautiful dress, a beautiful hairstyle, a beautiful room and a beautiful smile with some beautiful things like in A BALLADS covers, they just need her, Ayu her-self, her talent & her voice, to present the BEST of her, as an artist =)

a simple cover can be more artistic because art can be simple. But I'm not talking about art here, so don't branch things to a point I wasn't even commenting about LOL I was talking about effort and work, and it's obvious the A BALLADS covers demanded a LOT more of those than A BEST 2 covers. Also, to be quite honest since we got into this subject, A BALLADS covers are a lot more artistical than the A BEST 2 covers. You can look at those pictures and wonder "oh why there are two ayu's embracing each other? what's the meaning of that?" Art makes you wonder and appreciate the scene and make several different interpretations out of it. A BEST 2 covers just have a bored make up face. You look at it and just think "Geez, ayu was not in the mood for releasing this album". There's nothing else to wonder about it so bland and unoriginal they are. Period.

That's my point of view, everyone can see them how they want, but I personally prefer those covers than A BALLADS where Ayu is missing something, it's like she 'needs' the decors to show the beauty of the covers, not like A BEST/A BEST 2 ^.^

The fact you prefer to eat a fast food hamburger over a grand cuisine chef's finest premier dish doesn't mean the hamburger had a lot more effort and dedication when it was made. There's a huge difference. i'm not talking about personal tastes, though yep, I A BALLADS covers had both effort and they shone in what they were supposed to be. A BEST 2 cover is just some creepy face with loads of make up and no real photography talent at all.

Oh, and still, you can't know if she made more effort for A BEST 2, some work can be hidden after all those obviouse things, maybe she sacrified a single to release this BEST, so not me not you can know, sorry ^^;

For real? Guys, can't you really tell when somebody doesn't do their jobs well? Do you guys have any critical sense? Honestly, you can judge works and tell whether effort or not was put in them. When somebody cleans your house you can tell if they did a rushed job or if they did everything perfectly. There's not any difference to ayu's works, we can tell when she's (for she I mean her and her staff) being a total lazy bum [i.e (miss)understood covers] or when she's indeed flowing with talent and dedication [RAINBOW covers]. To think you can't judge that is in my opinion, being totally naive.

[Sim']

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

I like, actually love, both the song and PV, but they both can't ever be compared to the grandness of both song and PV for RAINBOW. It's a fact.

Huuh ?? xDD
Sorry, since when it's a fact ? xD
It's still your point of view in my knowledge, I can present you 1.000 people who will disagree with you, I personally prefer part of Me than RAINBOW, is that still a fact? =)

And if you prefer RAINBOW song/PV, does it mean that the part of Me song/PV is "mediocre" ?
I prefer faaar better CAROLS than A song is born, I LOVE both but I wouldn't say A song is born is mediocre...

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

For real? Guys, can't you really tell when somebody doesn't do their jobs well? Do you guys have any critical sense? Honestly, you can judge works and tell whether effort or not was put in them.

I don't know how you can do that, personally I can't!

But to say if we have any critical sense, sorry but this is another subject, as I respected your point view, respect mine please.
I didn't use words like "No I don't agree with you" "You're 100% wrong" "Are you crazy to think like that" I just posted my point of view responding to your way of seeing this work, so please keep those "Do you guys have any critical sense?" comment things for yourself.
It's not because things seem 'obvious' to you that it's the real truth, I didn't say I'm right in any way, or as I'm talking to a child, I really respect you, there's no problem with you, not saying that in a sacrastic way but in a friendly one, or this subject whould have turned to something else long time ago seeing how reactions are in total disagree here =p

Back to the subject, Ayu may look a little "stupid" on (miss)understood covers for exemple, yeah~
But can you say it didn't got any good job behind this "stupid-look" cover ?
(miss)understood covers surely hide a secret message, it can be something like "this is an other of my personal albums, It really reflets Ayu her-self" which may explain the simplicity of the covers.
For the weird look, still she wanted to show some more natural faces, not the diva (MY STORY), the secret artist (Memorial address) or something 10x more artistical (I am...|RAINBOW)
Only Ayu knows the effort & the meaning of these covers =)

Also, what you can find boring, some other people may find it interesting.
What you think "Geez, ayu was not in the mood for releasing this album", some others can think "Oh, what is she thinking about ?" "What is she expressing ? Angry? Dreaming?" "What does she want to say, by looking to us on that way" "Oh man, those covers are weird but can anyone tell me if there is a secret meaning behind those huge eyes?"

You see, what you can find 'obvious' isn't really THAT obvious in reality =)
Everyone has his imagination, his way to interpretate a song/PV/picture ^.^

PS : We don't ask you to say her work is perfect, I find your point of view interesting, if not I wouldn't respond to you in any way, just read your post and pass my way, but you marked some interesting points that needed to be discussed.
If you find this BEST work not satisfying, then it's your point of view, not a reality or a fact, not everyone will agree with you so they don't have or a criticla sense

[evolution7931]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

I like, actually love, both the song and PV, but they both can't ever be compared to the grandness of both song and PV for RAINBOW. It's a fact.

LOL. That is NOT a fact, its an opinion.

[waltz#2]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

No, no, not only ayu would know, because it's obvious and unquestionable. We human beings are able to tell if someone's work was done with effort and dedication or whether they were a total lazy bum. Ayu did put some effort in releasing A BALLADS while she was a total lazy bum when she made this A BEST 2.

See, while I respect your opinion, when you say it's "obvious and unquestionable" then it seems like what you're saying is fact, when it's not. Sometimes people really can't tell "effort" from "laziness". I've turned in enough last minute projects to know.

She certainly did put a lot of work into A BALLADS, but I feel that she made an equal effort with A BEST 2. I mean, how can you tell how much thought Ayu put into the album? Maybe she had been thinking about a second BEST ever since the first one was released. Maybe Ayu spent nights debating with herself over whether or not she should re-sing her songs. Maybe she didn't. If I ever meet her, I'll be sure to ask.

You can think Ayu is a bum anytime and you can think A BEST 2 looks "bored", just don't try to make a fact out of it.