[News] Gackt - Jesus (OUT 2008.11.26 // 2008.12.03)

[Ani_C]

Wow xD He's no longer a vampire, he thinks he's Jesus now!

Spoiler:

This can so get out of hand xD;

[bondingo]

Seriously? This is a retarded name for a song.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by bondingo

Seriously? This is a retarded name for a song.

really? I don't see why. I mean, it's quite common for japanese singer/bands to name their songs after religious important people. Just like ayu made M and hitomi made MARIA, and Luna Sea has a song called "Virgin Mary" and "Jesus" too. I think it's clear that Gackt most likely will make this a religious song of some sort, as can be seem by the covers. I don't see how it's reatarded. I'm not religious, but it makes perfect sense to me. It's a simple title yet has a lot of meaning.

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

really? I don't see why. I mean, it's quite common for japanese singer/bands to name their songs after religious important people. Just like ayu made M and hitomi made MARIA, and Luna Sea has a song called "Virgin Mary" and "Jesus" too. I think it's clear that Gackt most likely will make this a religious song of some sort, as can be seem by the covers. I don't see how it's reatarded. I'm not religious, but it makes perfect sense to me. It's a simple title yet has a lot of meaning.

Yeah, and they only do it because they have some weird trendy fascination with Western religion. It's pretty ridiculous to Westerners to see artists wearing crosses and naming their songs stuff like "Jesus" when we know they don't have a clue about any of the stuff.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo

Yeah, and they only do it because they have some weird trendy fascination with Western religion. It's pretty ridiculous to Westerners to see artists wearing crosses and naming their songs stuff like "Jesus" when we know they don't have a clue about any of the stuff.

Well, they might not follow the religion, but assuming they have "no clue" is a bit too much. I mean, anybody can know Jesus history, either they believe it or not, or either they be religious or not, by reading books, watching movies or "being preached" by others. Material is definitely not lacking. That's how ayu made Free & Easy. She was inspired in the Joan's Of Arc story after she watched THE MESSENGER movie. It doesn't need to have a lot of clue after you've watched a movie and know that somebody had a history like that and then feel inspired into writing something about it. Maybe it's a weird trendy fascination, but then, if they like that, I don't see why it should be so ridiculous, I dunno. About the cross, many westerns wear crosses when they don't give a damn about the religion, so we can't really blame japanesew on that.

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

Well, they might not follow the religion, but assuming they have "no clue" is a bit too much. I mean, anybody can know Jesus history, either they believe it or not, or either they be religious or not, by reading books, watching movies or "being preached" by others. Material is definitely not lacking. That's how ayu made Free & Easy. She was inspired in the Joan's Of Arc story after she watched THE MESSENGER movie. It doesn't need to have a lot of clue after you've watched a movie and know that somebody had a history like that and then feel inspired into writing something about it. Maybe it's a weird trendy fascination, but then, if they like that, I don't see why it should be so ridiculous, I dunno. About the cross, many westerns wear crosses when they don't give a damn about the religion, so we can't really blame japanesew on that.

Umm, somehow I doubt it. Japanese people love to secularize Western religion by making it into a fashion statement or something. If this is like that, I'll be really irritated. But neither of us can really make any sort of definitive statement with the song not even being out, can we? Also I've never heard of a Western person wearing religious jewelry without being religious themselves.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo

Also I've never heard of a Western person wearing religious jewelry without being religious themselves.

Really? I've seem a lot, and not only in my country. A lot of ppl in the international media, actors, singers, etc wearing cross necklaces or earrings and they aren't really caring to show any religiosity. That's because a cross doesn't really necessarily screams religiosity, and not only in Japan, but mainly in the western culture it became quite a fashioonable/trendy item. Or were the 80's US/UK punks who'd often get into violent fights and who'd wear cross earrings insterested in showing any religiosity? As if... Getting into even deeper thoughts, crosses were what? Torture and execution instruments used to sentence criminals judged by the romans or whatever was it. The fact christianism is much more infused in western culture probably makes most people overlook that many ppl use certain "religious" artifacts mostly as just fancy jewelry than really showing religiosity at all. It's really unfair to blame japanese for wearing those things as them being just trendy when many people from the western can do it mainly for trendy reasons. I am not religious and I have cross necklaces I've got as gifts, and I wear them no problem, and it's not like I'm caring to show any religion.

Also, taking this to talking about religious figures, non-religious people can write books or stuff about Jesus or other religious personalities. It's not only someone who is of a certain religion that can analyze and discuss something about their religions. Actually, I've seem christian people commenting on how they admire buddha for his lifetime story, even though they don't follow buddhism at all. I'd never call these ppl stupid, they are open minded. I don't think you have to be catholic to admire or criticize Mother Theresa's worldwide known humanitarian works for example. I'm not trying to discuss religion or turn this into a religion topic though, but I just think I should point out these points.

But yeah, Gackt hasn't released it yet, so we'll still see what it will be about. I'm not a fan of Gackt (I don't hate him, but I'm just not interested). I like the songs he made for Dirge of Cerberus a lot though. But I dunno, the covers look good and definitely not random imo.

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo

Also I've never heard of a Western person wearing religious jewelry without being religious themselves.

I see that a lot. In recent years I've seen rosaries sold in regular American clothing chains like AE, Aeropostale and A&F. It's even more common in western Europe.

[CatGirl]

Wow, Jesus is kind of a strange title O_o; Hearing it's from Gackt, though, I'm not too surprised I haven't been following his recent stuff, but I'm really curious to hear this single now xD I LOVE the covers~ I hope the song will be good and meaningful too ^__^

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by Ani_C

Wow xD He's no longer a vampire, he thinks he's Jesus now!

Spoiler:

This can so get out of hand xD;

lmao

yep

eeeeeek


i like him, but I dont like his ego


seriously