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Old 27th October 2008, 01:23 AM
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Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.
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Old 27th October 2008, 01:28 AM
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Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.
LOL at the long parts XDDD.

I really really really wanted to see ayu swinging too! It would so fit the song (and the amazing cover) T_T.
Too bad there was no CAROLS -Another PV Version- but as we know they didn't shot the swinging scenes because of the storms at that place over that time. Stupid storms.

I think that someone said here that MW's PV director is the same for GREEN but before the freak out people need to give him another chance, the shots look good, but let's see the PV before we judge XD.
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Old 27th October 2008, 01:34 AM
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LOL at the long parts XDDD.

I really really really wanted to see ayu swinging too! It would so fit the song (and the amazing cover) T_T.
Too bad there was no CAROLS -Another PV Version- but as we know they didn't shot the swinging scenes because of the storms at that place over that time. Stupid storms.

I think that someone said here that MW's PV director is the same for GREEN but before the freak out people need to give him another chance, the shots look good, but let's see the PV before we judge XD.
More than the director, it's Ayu over the top facial expression in MW that almost ruin the PV for me. Seriously, I have to laugh when she is walking in the trench coat; no way that can be taken seriously.

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Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.
Mirrocle World was actually Kazuyoshi Shimomura. Takahide Ishii did such gems as Startin', Born to Be, and Blue Bird. However he did also do Momentum, so he does have the capacity to not be total crap, but his track record isn't that good. Although, Momentum is good because the story/concept is good, not that his direction is really that good.

That's why even Ayu's somewhat simple PVs from the past like Carols or even evolution etc I still find to be very good. They may not have a great story, but those pvs were always shot extremely well. (the cinematography and what not)

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Old 27th October 2008, 01:37 AM
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More than the director, it's Ayu over the top facial expression in MW that almost ruin the PV for me. Seriously, I have to laugh when she is walking in the trench coat; no way that can be taken seriously.
I know it was so divaish that me and my friend was on the floor as we enjoyed that PV with the whole matrix feeling into it XD.
I love this PV FOR the exaggerations ^-^.
Though 1 MW is enough I say, I like this PV and I hope it will stay unique with the whole idea.

GREEN PV looks it's going to be different with the whole wig and the dragon parade thingy, but we will see.
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Old 27th October 2008, 02:04 AM
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Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.
I agree, I don't know what people mean by "older PVs" when they say they prefer them over the new ones... Because A Song for XX and LOVEppears PVs were... not very good ><; I mean back in the day when you first saw them, maybe... (like when I first saw Fly high I thought it was so fun, not so much now...) but compared to her new ones, I don't think they hold a candle... Sure her new ones aren't perfect, but I do think they're better. And I also think/hope GREEN and Days will be another two great PVs.

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That's why even Ayu's somewhat simple PVs from the past like Carols or even evolution etc I still find to be very good. They may not have a great story, but those pvs were always shot extremely well. (the cinematography and what not)
I guess if you're more into how it was shot, those PVs would seem better... to be honest, I don't pay much attention to that stuff unless it's hard to not notice how bad/good it is...

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Old 27th October 2008, 05:50 AM
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I agree, I don't know what people mean by "older PVs" when they say they prefer them over the new ones... Because A Song for XX and LOVEppears PVs were... not very good ><; I mean back in the day when you first saw them, maybe... (like when I first saw Fly high I thought it was so fun, not so much now...) but compared to her new ones, I don't think they hold a candle... Sure her new ones aren't perfect, but I do think they're better. And I also think/hope GREEN and Days will be another two great PVs.


I guess if you're more into how it was shot, those PVs would seem better... to be honest, I don't pay much attention to that stuff unless it's hard to not notice how bad/good it is...
To be honest, I'm one of those praising the old pvs over the new ones as well. There are lots of things making the old ones better than the new ones. Yes, the techniques should be better now, and avex should have more money to throw to ayu's pvs. What I think about the new pvs tho...
1) glamorous, glamorous, and glamorous.
2) ayu's overacting.
3) no concept at all.
4) poor directing (yeah we can blame the directors for that).

Technically the old pvs aren't that well made (I watched TO BE pvs a few days ago and found out that the stars in the pv are kinda suck). But the pvs are very close to the song itself, and they actually connected to the lyrical contents deeply. Also, back then ayu wasn't just making herself ONLY glamorous. It's like she had more than one dimension back in the old days. Also, she was much more creative back then. All of her pvs are really well done between LOVEppears --> I am... era. I started feeling her pvs not getting as good as used to be when she released Free & Easy. Also, none of her pvs in RAINBOW are good at all (F&E, Voyage, Real me, RAINBOW). Her pvs got better during Memorial address. Then, her pv were only good between MY STORY --> (m)u era. After that I don't consider her pvs are good at all. I love JEWEL and (Don't) leave me alone, but they can't compared to the old pvs at all.

My personal fav pvs from ayu: LOVE~Destiny~, TO BE, appears, kanariya, vogue-Far away-SEASONS-, M, evolution, Dearest, ourselves, No way to say, Because of you, etc...
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Old 27th October 2008, 06:03 AM
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All of her pvs are really well done between LOVEppears --> I am... era. I started feeling her pvs not getting as good as used to be when she released Free & Easy. Also, none of her pvs in RAINBOW are good at all (F&E, Voyage, Real me, RAINBOW). Her pvs got better during Memorial address. Then, her pv were only good between MY STORY --> (m)u era. After that I don't consider her pvs are good at all. I love JEWEL and (Don't) leave me alone, but they can't compared to the old pvs at all.
I would die for another RAINBOW pv. Come to think of it, its not like ayu stopped using the ppl we like. She's just using them for something else that we don't care as much. Leslie kee did photos for cdl 07-08...and wataru Takeshi did asia tour 07 taskinst video (and possibly asia tour 08 as well) and decision pv.
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Old 27th October 2008, 08:27 AM
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I would die for another RAINBOW pv.
I agree that RAINBOW pv is excellent in providing its concept... Somehow when I first saw the pv (well when it was released), immediately I thought it was lacking of something amazing. Just like HEAVEN, I pretty like the concept of the pv, somehow it was lacking something as well (I guess fairyland used up lots of the budgets back then LOL). So, RAINBOW is good, but not in my amazing ayu pv list , cuz the first impression of the pv has already imprinted in my mind..
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^Haha lol. And I who thinks that RAINBOW PV and HEAVEN PV is one of the greatest! 100% emotions and nothing more.
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I agree, I don't know what people mean by "older PVs" when they say they prefer them over the new ones... Because A Song for XX and LOVEppears PVs were... not very good ><; I mean back in the day when you first saw them, maybe... (like when I first saw Fly high I thought it was so fun, not so much now...) but compared to her new ones, I don't think they hold a candle... Sure her new ones aren't perfect, but I do think they're better. And I also think/hope GREEN and Days will be another two great PVs.

I guess if you're more into how it was shot, those PVs would seem better... to be honest, I don't pay much attention to that stuff unless it's hard to not notice how bad/good it is...
Yea, I agree. E.g. SURREAL is seen as a classic PV (..I think), and I agree it has some artistic concepts, but it's basically a toned down version of BLUE BIRD with Ayu standing at random locations. =3

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More than the director, it's Ayu over the top facial expression in MW that almost ruin the PV for me. Seriously, I have to laugh when she is walking in the trench coat; no way that can be taken seriously.

Mirrocle World was actually Kazuyoshi Shimomura. Takahide Ishii did such gems as Startin', Born to Be, and Blue Bird. However he did also do Momentum, so he does have the capacity to not be total crap, but his track record isn't that good. Although, Momentum is good because the story/concept is good, not that his direction is really that good.

That's why even Ayu's somewhat simple PVs from the past like Carols or even evolution etc I still find to be very good. They may not have a great story, but those pvs were always shot extremely well. (the cinematography and what not)
Haha, I love the facial expressions, because they're kinda funny and over the top, yea. XD But after three PVs with them let's have something else now. :3

LOL, yea, Take has some awful PVs. XD Wataru has done all her expensive PVs (my name's WOMEN, JEWEL, fairyland) so I'm hoping he'll be doing this one, too. Or was a different direction at the set in Shanghai?
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