Hamasaki Ayumi and Avex face investigation by Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department

[jimex289]

Lol ImpactBreaker you make some good points in your last post, but does it honestly take more than 1 month to find out if she didn't obtain a permit for the event, or if there was serious trouble caused by her appearance on the streets of Shibuya? According to the articles I've read it's only now being sent to the prosecutor's office for "further investigation". It's like we've only broken the tip of the iceberg, one month after the fact. I'm not a police man or investigator but my common sense tells me it doesn't take all that long to find out if you had clearance for something...especially if you are the Metropolitan police with a wealth of resources at your disposal. Maybe this is me just hastily assuming things but basically, you'd go to the person who authorizes such things and ask them: "Did she or did she not have permission to walk the streets of Shibuya, causing a big riot?" It's a yes or no answer for crying out loud. This is, in my opinion, something pretty clear cut. Then you look at that picture truehappiness posted and it's not hard to put two and two together.

"How many people does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"

Well, in this case, how many days does it take for the TMP to figure out something was wrong that day with all that media coverage clearly illustrating it? And the answer is too long... I guess they had more important things to do, such as going after real wrongdoers. In that case, why even bother turning this into a whole big ordeal? Fine her an exorbitant amount of money and be done with it. They're making it seem like she committed some sort of heinous deed with "she has to go through the whole legal process!" for blocking the roads for a couple of hours. These jokers are wasting their time and resources.

Also, this is kind of taking it too far but shouldn't some of the blame fall on the fans for crowding those streets? I mean Ayu's appearance obviously instigated this but if those fans were never there, I'm pretty confident she wouldn't be in this legal mess right about now. She can't help that other people want to see her can she?

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by jimex289

Lol ImpactBreaker you make some good points in your last post, but does it honestly take more than 1 month to find out if she didn't obtain a permit for the event, or if there was serious trouble caused by her appearance on the streets of Shibuya? According to the articles I've read it's only now being sent to the prosecutor's office for "further investigation". It's like we've only broken the tip of the iceberg, one month after the fact. I'm not a police man or investigator but my common sense tells me it doesn't take all that long to find out if you had clearance for something...especially if you are the Metropolitan police with a wealth of resources at your disposal. This is, in my opinion, something pretty clear cut. Then you look at that picture truehappiness posted and it's not hard to put two and two together.

I'm not sure how justice in Japan works, but in here, for something that isn't an emergency, the justice often sets a couple of days for some things to be settled before the judgement take its course, specially when an investigation is under course. I recently have received an intimation because someone had gone to the justice saying that they were unfairly dissaproved in a selection in which i was part of, and I was selected. They gave me 14 days to show a reply to justice. In the meanwhile, the process was not taking its course. The whole thing happened over 5 months ago, and this guy went to justice 4 mionths ago, and it even has a sort of emergency character. If I didn't have come up with a reply in the 14 days, I'd lose my chance of defending myself. The process is still taking its course. So it amazes me to see how people want a clear resolution of something in a few days. A month isn't even that much time to start with, and when it comes to justice, it is actually a laughable short time imo. Again, i'm not sure how fast Japn's justice is, but I've often seem that jsutice often takes a while to issue prosecutions, unless it's really something very serious.

Also, the fact something is so "in your face" doesn't mean you can quickly draw conclusions from it and quickly come up with sentence specially when it's actually not too clear who's to blame on this event. Also, as I think some people ahve already stated, the fact this has taken some time or just because it was ayu doesn't mean this shouldn't go through a legal process.

And about blaming the people for crowding the street: they weren't the ones who started the event in the first place. It's really easy to blame the consequences rather than the cause of a problem.

[kuri♥ayu]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

And about blaming the people for crowding the street: they weren't the ones who started the event in the first place. It's really easy to blame the consequences rather than the cause of a problem.

I can understand what you're saying here but I don't think that ayu can always be held responsible for what her fans do. The fans aren't dumb. I'm sure they realized that they were standing in the middle of or crowding a street because they oh so badly wanted to see ayu. If I was following ayu around in hopes to get her autograph and I ended up blocking the way of say an ambulance driving by, I would know that and see it as my fault. I was the one in the way and it's not like ayu told me to stand there.

I mean if a fight were to break out in the middle of a crowd trying to see ayu and some people got seriously injured, would they blame ayu too? Because it was her event, or cause her security should've been tighter, or just cause this is the effect that her popularity can have on people?