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[Ayumi27]

Originally Posted by noidea

^ vocal ability <> artistic value
Most opera singers can do nothing except hitting high notes, they would never deserve an award for an album.
They only get songs and belt them out. That's it. No musical talent involved.

I don't want to start an argument nor offend you... But definitely you haven't heard any opera singer aside from their opera roles. If you had, comparing them vocally to a pop singer is offensive, worse considering them inferior.

I like and respect Gaga as a singer as well, but musical value isn't built upon costumes, stage props, heavy use of synthesizers and dancing. She's an outstanding singer, enough for the dance-pop genre, but no Pavarotti or Streisand

[noidea]

Originally Posted by Ayumi27

I don't want to start an argument nor offend you... But definitely you haven't heard any opera singer aside from their opera roles. If you had, comparing them vocally to a pop singer is offensive, worse considering them inferior.

I like and respect Gaga as a singer as well, but musical value isn't built upon costumes, stage props, heavy use of synthesizers and dancing. She's an outstanding singer, enough for the dance-pop genre, but no Pavarotti or Streisand

I can't find your argument. I only said that vocal ability has NOTHING to do with the artistic value of the music. Show me an opera singer with great lyrics and innovative and diverse songs that does more than just sing over it(lets say writes at least 20% of his/her work)

The main job of opera singers is being a vocalist and they do great in that role, but the vocals have nothing to do with the art created.
Artist <> vocalist.
An artist can be a vocalist and the other way round, but most simply aren't.

Opera singers have a vocal and performing talent, not a musical talent. A musical talent lies in the creation of music, vocal talent in singing.
For an "album of the year award" or "song of the year award" the vocals don't matter, because it's about the piece that is the song, not about the performance of it.