New album 'Party Queen' out 03/21 information thread [VI]

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher

You're REALLY going there?

So basically if I don't like something I should shut up and ignore it. Yeah, really smart there.
The last time in history that happened it lead to a massacre, which shows what a completely STUPID way of thinking that is.
I am the one giving Avex my money, OF COURSE I will complain if I don't like something. It is my right, because I'm giving them my money and their product isn't exactly cheap.
Timmy needs to act like a professional and not throw a stan-worthy *****fit. He looks ridiculous and it makes Ayu look bad.
I really hope YOU are ignorant and not just stupid because your logic is severely flawed.

If you think that non complaining about an album cover will open doors to massacre, I have to say u have a limited vision of world politics...

And if u disliked the product, just don't buy it. Nobody is forcing you and not buying something u disliked is the biggest complain u can make about it, cuz is the only one that trully afects the industry.

Even disliking the product don't really give u rights to disrespect the people behind it... And this is the major point here, a lot of people are using social media to make not so polite comments about the releases... Timmy got angered this time, Ayu got angered about it a lot in the past. If people are offending Ayu (and they do are sometimes), the most unprofessional Timmy looks replying to those people, it still shows how much passion and appreciation he has for his job, his friend Ayumi and the work put into her releases.

If u compleined to Ayu about the covers as polite as u was on your last post, Timmy could punch u on the face and I would still support him...

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

If u compleined to Ayu about the covers as polite as u was on your last post, Timmy could punch u on the face and I would still support him...

(If Timmy could punch you in your face for being such an annoying (and offending) smartass, I would immediately become Timmy's fan and force myself to love BRILLANTE. )

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by RayJason

(If Timmy could punch you in your face for being such an annoying (and offending) smartass, I would immediately become Timmy's fan and force myself to love BRILLANTE. )

I think u need a hug, definitelly...

[Yumsushi]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

If you think that non complaining about an album cover will open doors to massacre, I have to say u have a limited vision of world politics...

And if u disliked the product, just don't buy it. Nobody is forcing you and not buying something u disliked is the biggest complain u can make about it, cuz is the only one that trully afects the industry.

Even disliking the product don't really give u rights to disrespect the people behind it... And this is the major point here, a lot of people are using social media to make not so polite comments about the releases... Timmy got angered this time, Ayu got angered about it a lot in the past. If people are offending Ayu (and they do are sometimes), the most unprofessional Timmy looks replying to those people, it still shows how much passion and appreciation he has for his job, his friend Ayumi and the work put into her releases.

If u compleined to Ayu about the covers as polite as u was on your last post, Timmy could punch u on the face and I would still support him...

So its the fans fault that Timmy was whining like a little girl? I don't know what kind of comments forced his response but no matter, I would think that he or anyone representing an major artist like Ayu should have more tact and know how to stay professional in the face of criticism. If he can't stay professional, then he should definitely leave the commenting to Ayu since she knows how to get her point across without looking like an idiot. Similar to how your post lose all credibility by calling for people to be punched in the face, joking or not.

@isthisLOL? I read your blog, but I think the Step you/playboy correlation was farfetched. You really didn't need to add it because everything else you mentioned in the post supports your point.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Yumsushi

So its the fans fault that Timmy was whining like a little girl? I don't know what kind of comments forced his response but no matter, I would think that he or anyone representing an major artist like Ayu should have more tact and know how to stay professional in the face of criticism. If he can't stay professional, then he should definitely leave the commenting to Ayu since she knows how to get her point across without looking like an idiot. Similar to how your post lose all credibility by calling for people to be punched in the face, joking or not.

@isthisLOL? I read your blog, but I think the Step you/playboy correlation was farfetched. You really didn't need to add it because everything else you mentioned in the post supports your point.

It doesn't matter how wrong Timmy is, people who started complaining some times weren't right either... I can't see how people act as Timmy killed a puppy or two while nobody care that, AGAIN, the fans were totally out of their right of expressing themselves on very rude ways.

Last year a-nation... the MSta live... and now this... Can't get it. I'm starting to believe that Ayu's western fanbase is just plain retarted.

[Yumsushi]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

It doesn't matter how wrong Timmy is, people who started complaining some times weren't right either... I can't see how people act as Timmy killed a puppy or two while nobody care that, AGAIN, the fans were totally out of their right of expressing themselves on very rude ways.

Last year a-nation... the MSta live... and now this... Can't get it. I'm starting to believe that Ayu's western fanbase is just plain retarted.

The word retarded is really inappropriate to use, I'll ignore your use of it for the moment and assume you meant no ill will and move on.

I disagree with you, Ayu and her team can't control an entire fanbase, but they can control how to deal with them. This is why artists have PR personnel who are trained and very well paid. He clearly has no such training and so he should not be speaking to her fans. Fans found his response offensive, and they have every right to be upset that some nobody was swearing at them and essentially calling them stupid for not understanding some deep concept for a poorly conceived project. I never said the fans were right if they were rude, I emphasized that he should have restraint and tact. You seem intent on defending his childish outburst, I don't know why. If anything, it seems like you are the one making a mountain out of a molehill by taking some deluded higher moral ground and painting this entire fanbase the same color.

Edit: weren't the fans that freaked out over a nation the Japanese fans?

[chocopockymaster]

Originally Posted by Yumsushi

I disagree with you, Ayu and her team can't control an entire fanbase, but they can control how to deal with them. This is why artists have PR personnel who are trained and very well paid. He clearly has no such training and so he should not be speaking to her fans. Fans found his response offensive, and they have every right to be upset that some nobody was swearing at them and essentially calling them stupid for not understanding some deep concept for a poorly conceived project. I never said the fans were right if they were rude, I emphasized that he should have restraint and tact. You seem intent on defending his childish outburst, I don't know why. If anything, it seems like you are the one making a mountain out of a molehill by taking some deluded higher moral ground and painting this entire fanbase the same color.

If you narrow-minded asshats want to label me an antifan or what the hell ever because I criticize Ayu for something that I feel wasn't executed well, go right ahead. I don't need any validation from you. I know that my qualms are legitimate and if I had to choose being able to analyze her work from different angles or being a blindly-loyal stan that just wants to crawl up Ayu's ass and stay there, I'd choose to stay the way I am, any day of the week. It doesn't mean I'm negative. It means I have brain cells.

As far as Timmy's response on twitter goes, he's an absolute idiot for saying anything about it in the first place, and his "ohmygod I was sooo drunk" excuse is the oldest one in the book. Really now? Come on. Stick to your day job, Timmy. Oh wait, I forgot...you're not good at that, either.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

I'm starting to believe that Ayu's western fanbase is just plain retarted.

And that's not rude at all. Welcome to the team!

You know ayu is an adult, she doesn't need you to defend her everytime someone is saying something bad about her, nor she needs a drunk Tim to tweet.
Of course there is different ways to say things. But a lot of people are overreacting (both sides).

Peace.

edit:

Originally Posted by Yumsushi

The word retarded is really inappropriate to use, I'll ignore your use of it for the moment and assume you meant no ill will and move on.

I disagree with you, Ayu and her team can't control an entire fanbase, but they can control how to deal with them. This is why artists have PR personnel who are trained and very well paid. He clearly has no such training and so he should not be speaking to her fans. Fans found his response offensive, and they have every right to be upset that some nobody was swearing at them and essentially calling them stupid for not understanding some deep concept for a poorly conceived project. I never said the fans were right if they were rude, I emphasized that he should have restraint and tact. You seem intent on defending his childish outburst, I don't know why. If anything, it seems like you are the one making a mountain out of a molehill by taking some deluded higher moral ground and painting this entire fanbase the same color.

Sometimes I wish I would be good at English because I could say beautiful things like this! Thank you, you spoke for me!

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Yumsushi

@isthisLOL? I read your blog, but I think the Step you/playboy correlation was farfetched. You really didn't need to add it because everything else you mentioned in the post supports your point.

I don't think so actually. Playboy photoshoots usually have very high production qualities, they hire great photographers for them, make great sets and they tend to at least start off rather classy, but sexual. Just like STEP you. The photoshoot looked a whole lot like something that would appear in the clothed parts of Playboy. The Playboy comparison was no insult, though some people may think of it as one. I really respect some Playboy photographers for their work.

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

If you think that non complaining about an album cover will open doors to massacre, I have to say u have a limited vision of world politics...

And if u disliked the product, just don't buy it. Nobody is forcing you and not buying something u disliked is the biggest complain u can make about it, cuz is the only one that trully afects the industry.

Even disliking the product don't really give u rights to disrespect the people behind it... And this is the major point here, a lot of people are using social media to make not so polite comments about the releases... Timmy got angered this time, Ayu got angered about it a lot in the past. If people are offending Ayu (and they do are sometimes), the most unprofessional Timmy looks replying to those people, it still shows how much passion and appreciation he has for his job, his friend Ayumi and the work put into her releases.

If u compleined to Ayu about the covers as polite as u was on your last post, Timmy could punch u on the face and I would still support him...

You're such a troll, but I understand why...

TIMMY, IS THAT YOU?!?!?!