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Old 15th March 2012, 03:16 PM
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The only interesting part of this is PV is its ending lol

P.S. I totally agree!
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I actually hated the idea of using the photo. Why so obvious, ayu? I really don't like how she makes money from her private life.
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I think the foto at the end of the musicvideo lets the marriage seem even more fake and manufactured than ever before. They needed something for "Love songs" album release (marriage + PVs) and now "Party Queen" (divorce + PV) .____.

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Old 15th March 2012, 03:32 PM
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The execution wasn't all that great. Bad CGI, some mediocre image compositions mixed in...but as a whole I liked it. I very much enjoyed the connections to Virgin Road and Microphone(which it is connected to in my interpretation, I did not actually connect it to the power plant disaster that much, but now that people point it out it seems just as plausible)
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Old 15th March 2012, 03:42 PM
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Based on some members interpretation, so I can see one or more PV coming ????

Love Song -> Last Angel -> Virgin Road -> Return Road -> ??????

I hope not it is not true that she extends the series of the story...hmmm Well I am confused sometimes when I read people's post here.
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Old 15th March 2012, 03:55 PM
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I actually hated the idea of using the photo. Why so obvious, ayu? I really don't like how she makes money from her private life.
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I think the foto at the end of the musicvideo lets the marriage seem even more fake and manufactured than ever before. They needed something for "Love songs" album release (marriage + PVs) and now "Party Queen" (divorce + PV) .____.
Hang on, now, is that really fair?

I felt super weird about Ayu's shotgun wedding, too, and didn't understand what was going on with any of it. You know, though, the intricacies and authenticity of their relationship, if you want to make that the object of the conversation here, is not something that I think it's fair of us to criticize at this point - Ayu - and Mannie - have gone through a painful process with this divorce crap, whatever their relationship history before. I can say nothing about the Love Songs era events, but at this point, I don't think it's fair to say Ayu's using this whole affair "to make money." She's an artist; she's using her music, etc. to sort out her feelings and come to terms with events.

The point some people made about when this song was written/when the PV was filmed in relation to Ayu's actual divorce, however, is, frankly, yes, pretty...erm, awkward. :-/
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The Love Song -> Last Angel -> Virgin Road storyline is closed, it's a story that repeats itself in an endless circle. It's thought that Return Road may be a RESPONSE to that rather than a continuation.
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Old 15th March 2012, 04:28 PM
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The Love Song -> Last Angel -> Virgin Road storyline is closed, it's a story that repeats itself in an endless circle. It's thought that Return Road may be a RESPONSE to that rather than a continuation.
Agree, but I am clueless why the picture is there at the end. I think that's kinda unnecessary.
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^^ I was talking only about the photo. For me it's OK if this song was about the relationship between her and Mannie, but why omg why did she use THAT photo again? it just makes everything too obvious, too manufactured. I wish she didn't, seriously. This ruins the very good impression the PV makes. as soon as everyone understands that Return Road is connected with Mannie I wish she didn't make it THAT obvious. that's why I got this feeling that she just uses her private life to gain more attention and etc.
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^^ I was talking only about the photo. For me it's OK if this song was about the relationship between her and Mannie, but why omg why did she use THAT photo again? it just makes everything too obvious, too manufactured. I wish she didn't, seriously. This ruins the very good impression the PV makes. as soon as everyone understands that Return Road is connected with Mannie I wish she didn't make it THAT obvious. that's why I got this feeling that she just uses her private life to gain more attention and etc.
I wonder though...it's obvious to us, but would people who aren't such huge Ayu fans notice, do you think? The picture's pretty obscured.
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I wonder though...it's obvious to us, but would people who aren't such huge Ayu fans notice, do you think? The picture's pretty obscured.
I agree. We all knew what it was instantly because we've seen it a thousand times, but people who aren't as obsessed as we are (haha ) might have only seen the picture one or two times on the news in Japan or something, if at all.

To ayu, it was probably a message to those who know her situation better, who have followed it more closely, without making it obvious to everyone else.
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^^ I was talking only about the photo. For me it's OK if this song was about the relationship between her and Mannie, but why omg why did she use THAT photo again? it just makes everything too obvious, too manufactured. I wish she didn't, seriously. This ruins the very good impression the PV makes. as soon as everyone understands that Return Road is connected with Mannie I wish she didn't make it THAT obvious. that's why I got this feeling that she just uses her private life to gain more attention and etc.
ok now you are being just downright silly and overdramatic. WHO CARES if she used an actual photo from her personal life. Like everybody else is saying, it may be a continuation of her other PV's. And another question i have is, how in the world does it make her PV manufactured and why does it mean she wants attention? I'm sorry, really sorry but that is just stupid.
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ok now you are being just downright silly and overdramatic. WHO CARES if she used an actual photo from her personal life. Like everybody else is saying, it may be a continuation of her other PV's. And another question i have is, how in the world does it make her PV manufactured and why does it mean she wants attention? I'm sorry, really sorry but that is just stupid.
silly, stupid?
OK, I just stated my point of view. thank you so much for being so nice to call me stupid
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i think people are overreacting to what ayu does. It just p!*%$# me off when they say she's using these ploys to garner attention and money? really? come on! Are you really an ayu fan?

*am i being too harsh? lol

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pv was boring, but the song i find it to be really good
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Old 15th March 2012, 04:38 PM
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I love the song and this is really the typical Ayu pv that I love too!!

I dun quite get the marching part. but the photo of her and Mannie makes me feel so sad.. Isn't this a divorce song by her? Although Ayu says it's not but it's hard to believe. =(
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Old 15th March 2012, 05:18 PM
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yeah, I know, people who are not her big fans won't notice it... I just dislike the WHOLE idea of using it
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I just had a realization though that sort of pulls it together in my head.

I can see and agree with the parallels people are drawing between the PV and the Fukushima disaster, but I don't think many people are considering some aspects of the PV. If you notice, it was as though, through the PV, ayu was being torn apart by this disaster. She was wearing a dress that looked both like a mourning gown (mourning the victims of the disaster) and a black wedding dress (a sign of her divorce). As she's fighting through this disaster, she's also looking for someone (Mannie) to be there for her, since it seems as though everyone else around her can't see her at all and she feels alone.

Then the most striking thing: the photo itself, once it is found, is damaged and Mannie's face is faded away, because of the harsh conditions of the disaster.

I just found all of that to make a lot of sense to me. If you disagree, no worries. :3
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I just had a realization though that sort of pulls it together in my head.

I can see and agree with the parallels people are drawing between the PV and the Fukushima disaster, but I don't think many people are considering some aspects of the PV. If you notice, it was as though, through the PV, ayu was being torn apart by this disaster. She was wearing a dress that looked both like a mourning gown (mourning the victims of the disaster) and a black wedding dress (a sign of her divorce). As she's fighting through this disaster, she's also looking for someone (Mannie) to be there for her, since it seems as though everyone else around her can't see her at all and she feels alone.

Then the most striking thing: the photo itself, once it is found, is damaged and Mannie's face is faded away, because of the harsh conditions of the disaster.

I just found all of that to make a lot of sense to me. If you disagree, no worries. :3
I have the same impression as you of the pv and that's why I love it. I think she portrait her pain of that moment of her life very well ).
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Old 15th March 2012, 06:21 PM
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I liked return road pv more than nanana actually. I love how meaningful and deep is this one .
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I really love both PV & song, they feel so 'old Ayu' I've been missing for ages!
see nothing bad with photo-showing. although, yes, I do understand why people might be frustrated
I think it has connection both to Fukushima and Ayu private life. I don't think the PV should have been more dramatic or smth.

as for interpretation, I see to it that Ayu was left alone during the nuclear disaster and stayed there for the people (the scene in the field or inside the building with the band) for whom she sang so that she could distact them from the problem (mini-explosions inside the building when she came in & started singing). When she stood there in the field with her CG image on the building in the background and people in the masks around felt like her concert performances, people in masks (Japan inhabitants suffering from the disaster) were her audience. but then people had to go (had to cope with the disaster and kinda go & fix it) like they leave after every concert and she was left alone. and then she was searching for that familiar face being alone. but she couldn't find 'him'. because he rejected her/escaped from her (the end scene of picking up the photo).

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I'm in love with the song!! And de MV is sooo cool!! I really love it!
But I think it need more... takes? more....Ayu? Yeah!
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