[News] HBYA - Theme song "Tokyo Rainbow Pride 2012"

[Yannetakizawa]

http://www.timeout.jp/en/tokyo/event...ow-Parade-2012

[Aderianu]

I read this in her tweets ^^

[Andrenekoi]

Ayu, the gay diva xDDD

[PetiteMonstre]

awww that's so lovely

[AyumiAi]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL

[yamashita.san]

Oh no...

This must be a joke......

[Andrenekoi]

^Why? What's wrong on having her song as the theme for the Gay Pride Parade?

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by yamashita.san

Because this song is too beautiful to be a theme of that parade.. I'm not against gays at all. But there is no pride in being gay... That's just my opinion. Sorry..

Doesn't that statement mean that you are somewhat against gay people?

Part of the message of how beautiful you are was to encourage anyone regardless of their sexuality/appearance/weight/height/disabilities/whatever and tell them that they are beautiful. The PV reinforces that with a theme of universal love between all types of people (men with men, women with women, people who are into S&M, people who have prosthetic legs, etc.)

From Misa-chan's blog:

Tokyo_R_Pride: Hamasaki Ayumi fans, please spread. As a conclusion to Tokyo Rainbow Pride on 29/4, all participants will sing ayu’s 「How beautiful You Are」. We are considering making an ayu float too. http://t.co/NuGQpsZw #trp2012 #ayu
ayu_19980408: RT

Tokyo_R_Pride: The PV features homosexual love and praises love of all kinds, and the message of “you are beautiful” goes well with our theme this year, so that’s the main reason why it’s chosen. Please sing it with us!
ayu_19980408: This is a happy story for me, who had learnt my life lessons at Nichome ever since I was a little kid!! Please use my song to make a wonderful closing ballad ♡

I wonder what the Ayu float might look like. Also, Ayu seems like she hung out around Nichome a lot even as a kid. (It's basically a gay district in Shinjuku/Tokyo)

[JackieRos]

squirrels don't have big thick tails like that, I think is a groundhog or otter.
could be a flying squirrel too I guess but what do squirrels have to do with pride lmao


The song fits very perfectly and if they do a float of ayu it'll be awesome to see.

Originally Posted by yamashita.san

I'm not against gays at all. But there is no pride in
being gay... That's just my opinion. Sorry..

it's your opinion, that's fine everyone is entitled to their own opinion but
you have no right to say what people can or can't have pride in.

[Deep snow]

Originally Posted by yamashita.san

Because this song is too beautiful to be a theme of that parade.. there is no pride in being gay... Sorry..

Aaw, that's sweet. Please roll over and die

[maikaru]

Originally Posted by Deep snow

Aaw, that's sweet. Please roll over and die

I think the guy or girl doesn't mean that in a harmful way. If straight person said "I'm proud of being straight," wouldn't everyone think "What? That's so strange." I think it's the same with homosexual people. Of course, I'm not against the gay pride parade or festivities, they're actually quite fun in the city I'm staying. But in reality, people should not have to say "I have gay pride" or "I'm proud of being gay" because it's not something people should be proud of. Not because it's a bad or dirty word or idea, but because we should have already accepted and moved on that homosexuals do exist and it's not a bad thing.

[PetiteMonstre]

Originally Posted by maikaru

I think the guy or girl doesn't mean that in a harmful way. If straight person said "I'm proud of being straight," wouldn't everyone think "What? That's so strange." I think it's the same with homosexual people. Of course, I'm not against the gay pride parade or festivities, they're actually quite fun in the city I'm staying. But in reality, people should not have to say "I have gay pride" or "I'm proud of being gay" because it's not something people should be proud of. Not because it's a bad or dirty word or idea, but because we should have already accepted and moved on that homosexuals do exist and it's not a bad thing.

I do agree with you. Gay Pride actually shouldn't have to exist, we should all accept each other as we are. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, there is nothing EVER wrong with LOVE.

Sadly we live in world where this is not accomplish-able yet. So as long people are not willing to accept we'll parade for our rights.





I hope for some video footage

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by maikaru

I think the guy or girl doesn't mean that in a harmful way. If straight person said "I'm proud of being straight," wouldn't everyone think "What? That's so strange." I think it's the same with homosexual people. Of course, I'm not against the gay pride parade or festivities, they're actually quite fun in the city I'm staying. But in reality, people should not have to say "I have gay pride" or "I'm proud of being gay" because it's not something people should be proud of. Not because it's a bad or dirty word or idea, but because we should have already accepted and moved on that homosexuals do exist and it's not a bad thing.

If the world was filled with people who wouldn't crucify others for being gay, gay pride festivals wouldn't exist.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Yet I've never met a straight person who fits the description

J-rockers perhaps? Lol.

[Deep snow]

Originally Posted by yamashita.san

Come and kill me

Hey thanks I'd love to, but unfortunately the reason some ignoramus like you are still alive is because it's illegal to kill them

So, for now you're safe in your things-are-too-good-for-the-gays little world

Originally Posted by maikaru

I think the guy or girl doesn't mean that in a harmful way. If straight person said "I'm proud of being straight," wouldn't everyone think "What? That's so strange." I think it's the same with homosexual people. Of course, I'm not against the gay pride parade or festivities, they're actually quite fun in the city I'm staying. But in reality, people should not have to say "I have gay pride" or "I'm proud of being gay" because it's not something people should be proud of. Not because it's a bad or dirty word or idea, but because we should have already accepted and moved on that homosexuals do exist and it's not a bad thing.

I'm actually of the same view with you; it's an orientation and nothing to be 'proud' about. But unfortunately the world hasn't been taking kindly to the gays, so much so that gay 'pride' should exist. I'd love to live in a world where all orientations are equally accepted, thereby making no reason for pride of either of them, but until then I think any message relaying that some-things-are-too-good-for-the-gays would add to gay opposition, if not oppression.

And I think it's now clear how harmful that person's view is. S/he's "not against gay", but some things are just too good for them. That's like saying s/he's against slavery, but freedom is too much for the slaves

[Earth_maiden]

Originally Posted by Deep snow

Hey thanks I'd love to, but unfortunately the reason some ignoramus like you are still alive is because it's illegal to kill them

So, for now you're safe in your things-are-too-good-for-the-gays little world



I'm actually of the same view with you; it's an orientation and nothing to be 'proud' about. But unfortunately the world hasn't been taking kindly to the gays, so much so that gay 'pride' should exist. I'd love to live in a world where all orientations are equally accepted, thereby making no reason for pride of either of them, but until then I think any message relaying that some-things-are-too-good-for-the-gays would add to gay opposition, if not oppression.

And I think it's now clear how harmful that person's view is. S/he's "not against gay", but some things are just too good for them. That's like saying s/he's against slavery, but freedom is too much for the slaves

Agree with this, sooo much. Even in this modern age, people all around the world are being persecuted and killed for their sexual orientation. Teenage LGBT suicide is 4 times higher than heterosexual teenagers.

Here's a cite from wiki for those who want statistics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_LGBT_youth

Spoiler:

Numerous studies have shown that lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth have a higher rate of suicide attempts than do heterosexual youth. The Suicide Prevention Resource Center synthesized these studies and estimated that between 30 and 40% of LGB youth, depending on age and sex groups, have attempted suicide.[2] A U.S. government study, titled Report of the Secretary's Task Force on Youth Suicide, published in 1989, found that LGBT youth are four times more likely to attempt suicide than other young people.[3] This higher prevalence of suicidal ideation and overall mental health problems among gay teenagers compared to their heterosexual peers has been attributed to Minority Stress.[4][5] "More than 34,000 people die by suicide each year," making it "the third leading cause of death among 15 to 24 year olds with lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth attempting suicide up to four times more than their heterosexual peers."[6]

From my personal experience, you don't usually get someone who is LGBT who will verbally abuse or attack a straight person. But the opposite happens every day, all over the world. And it keeps happening.


So yeah, be pedantic and say its nothing to be proud of if you think so. But I believe everyone who is LGBT has the right to be proud of their sexual orientation and shouldn't be persecuted becasue of it. Its not just about saying "we're here, we're proud", it's about making others aware of the suffering and hate that they have to put up with.

Go lobby someone for a straight parade if you want to, but I think you'll get laughed out of the building.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by maikaru

I think the guy or girl doesn't mean that in a harmful way. If straight person said "I'm proud of being straight," wouldn't everyone think "What? That's so strange." I think it's the same with homosexual people. Of course, I'm not against the gay pride parade or festivities, they're actually quite fun in the city I'm staying. But in reality, people should not have to say "I have gay pride" or "I'm proud of being gay" because it's not something people should be proud of. Not because it's a bad or dirty word or idea, but because we should have already accepted and moved on that homosexuals do exist and it's not a bad thing.

I think it's more like, 'I'm proud of who I am' rather than proud in the sense that you accomplished something. When you live in a society that forces shame on you for something so natural, of course you're going to be proud to be gay. When society changes maybe your argument would have more merit but just to say "accept it and move on" is a little insensitive, don't you think?

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

I think it's more like, 'I'm proud of who I am' rather than proud in the sense that you accomplished something. When you live in a society that forces shame on you for something so natural, of course you're going to be proud to be gay. When society changes maybe your argument would have more merit but just to say "accept it and move on" is a little insensitive, don't you think?

Personally, I see both sides. I was never one to consider someone special just because they were a minority of some sort. And being gay is just another one of those.

It's just like when my friends are being all crazy feminist and I'm just like "yeah uh huh sure." Then they tell me I'm helping sexism or something...


But anyways, I'm not really one to rain on people's parades...lol Of course we shouldn't have a need for the pride...but I think the harm from having it is less than if we didn't...so...you know, the world isn't perfect. We can't have everything just so.

If having gay pride parades means that maybe our society accepts homosexuality even just a tiny bit more...I'll take that over nothing lol And if it means that people feel more accepted and proud about who they are...why would I take that away from them?

The day people stop being proud for this kind of thing, is the day that people also stop being proud of the other little societal divisions, like ethnicity and gender, class, etc. We're not going to be there any time soon.

[yamashita.san]

Originally Posted by Deep snow

Aaw, that's sweet. Please roll over and die

Come and kill me

[Minttulatte]

What a nice coincidence, I've always thought how beautiful you are would be a nice theme for gay pride parades/movements/whatever because that theme of the song is so sweet. I'm not a gay myself, and I have nothing against them. They're people like everyone else and it's good that they're proud of what they are.