Who is the pop queen from your country?

[Isicio]

Not from my country but Lady Gaga is one of the best selling divas too.

https://youtu.be/qrO4YZeyl0I

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[Andrenekoi]

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This performance is what ended her great success ... it was seen like a blatant try to be like Rihanna and inappropriate for a prime time show (too much suggestive) since then she struggle a lot and a lot and honestly I think it will be difficult for her in the future ! She is defintly not at the same level as Mylène farmer !!

Really? Holy shit, I love this performance, the dance is amazing xD I watched it everyday for a week after finding it!

@Isicio Well, Gaga lost a lot of power since The Fame Monster days and even her recent awards are kinda suspicious...

[DonkeyKongRemix]

I think in America, a lot of people think the pop queens are Madonna, Britney Spears, and Beyonce but let me tell you something...

Mariah Carey is definitely at LEAST one of our pop queens. If you just read about how many freakin' albums that woman has sold and her level of influence...it's astounding.

[Andrenekoi]

^Mariah is huge indeed.... Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston and Barbra Streissand would also fit the title^^

[Aderianu]

Hard question. They need to be well known, rignt? So if I don't know them, they can't be named "queens" xD So I chose Valeriya

[Andrenekoi]

It must be someone you are aware about even if you don't listen to them because they are unavoidable xD I read about Valeriya before and even decided to give it a try, but had no idea from where to begin with xD

[Miku]

I would say for Sweden, is Carola the pop queen, she's been active since 83'
and she's sold several million records, her genres is: Pop, Gospel, Schlager and she has released 24 studio albums, 29 singles




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[Chibi-Chan]

Oh I didn't noticed this thread before. Well in Germany we have no pop queen that would be as big as Mylène, but when asked about a german pop queen people would name Sarah Connor I guess.
She debuted in 2001, was very popular for a few years and is still regularly releasing music until now.
I would link to a few songs, but I don't have a computer atm. She got popular with the song "Let's get back to bed - Boy!" and became famous all over Germany with her ballad "From Sarah with Love". I guess everyone knows that song. A favourite of mine would be "Under my skin". It's an aggressive pop/dance tune with very explicit sexual lyrics. I also like the video to the song. It's not a masterpiece or something, but I like her attitude in it.
I think she has a great voice and she's also a great singer.

[Uknow!]

^ Oh, I know Sarah Connor because Under my skin is the same song as Mirotic from DBSK. (I think Sarah Connor was the first to released the song. I liked her and the music video (so cool) but stupid kpop fans criticized her.

From Germany I love so much Cascada, but well, I suppose she doesn't fit with the "pop queen theme".

[Chibi-Chan]

^to be honest I tried to erase Mirotic from my memory. lol I like Tohoshinki, but the lyrics for Mirotic were such misogynystic bullshit. I mean, Sarah's version is like "let's have a one night stand" and Tohoshinki's is like "let me fuck you, bitch". First I also liked their version, but after reading the lyrics. T__T

Haha yeah Cascada.^^ They are actually a duo and were very popular around 2010 together with Groove Coverage, they make VERY similiar music. Groove Coverage also mixed vogue for the last ayu-mi-x. When I'm in trashy party mood love to listen to Cascada!

[SayukiChoco]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

Oh I didn't noticed this thread before. Well in Germany we have no pop queen that would be as big as Mylène, but when asked about a german pop queen people would name Sarah Connor I guess.
She debuted in 2001, was very popular for a few years and is still regularly releasing music until now.
I would link to a few songs, but I don't have a computer atm. She got popular with the song "Let's get back to bed - Boy!" and became famous all over Germany with her ballad "From Sarah with Love". I guess everyone knows that song. A favourite of mine would be "Under my skin". It's an aggressive pop/dance tune with very explicit sexual lyrics. I also like the video to the song. It's not a masterpiece or something, but I like her attitude in it.
I think she has a great voice and she's also a great singer.

I'm so glad you didn't say Helene Fischer
But I do agree about Sarah Connor. She is singing in German now and I think I like it a little bit more than her singing in English. But both is fine, she has such a good voice.

[Corvina]

I'd actually say Germany doesn't have a pop queen.
Sarah Connor probably is the most popular female pop singer over the last 2 generations, Helene Fisher is a good mention as well (even though she's making just pop inspired Schlager, her sales are higher than those from Sarah Connor and damn, she had a sold out Stadium Tour last year and her concerts are very Ayu and pop like!), but they all lack status imo, especially internationally.
Germany is far more popular for rock and pop bands (and DJs).

[Chibi-Chan]

Yeah I agree with you two. Sarah Connor is who comes closest to a pop queen. I would never say Helene Fischer is a pop queen. What people easily forget when it comes to Schlager and its high sales in general is that the audience of Schlager and pop music is VERY different. Young people don't have the money to buy that much CDs and mostly stream or download (illegal). Whereas people who listen to Schlager are mostly 50+ and those are the people who don't download or stream at all but actually buy music. That's why I don't think sales mean anything when you compare Helene Fischer to Sarah Connor. Not to mention that Sarah debuted 15 years back and managed to establish herself from a teen star to a respected artist who's responsible for her own releases.
And yes, we have far more bigger rock bands and DJs.

Btw, I haven't listened to Sarah's new german album yet. Is it worth a listen?

[Honey_Jae]

My first tought was Helene Fischer or Andrea Berg as well for Germany xD I don't like both of them. But a Pop-Queen...don't know if we ever had one?! Most of German people listen to english music if they don't know asian music or like it. But I agree with you all and would say that Sarah Connor is the one you can mention in this case. We had No Angels and other but these were 5 girls so not a Pop-Queen. And from the other actual German singers there is no one in my mind who deserves this titel.

[Andrenekoi]

I talked about German music with Noidea several times, and he also said he couldn't think of a German pop queen, even if he liked Sarah Connor. I never gave her a try because I don't like musicians based on non english speaking countries singing in English, but I wanna give her a try some day.

He talked a little about Nena (who seens to have somewhat this status at least to some people, considering she was the voice actress for Princess Selenia on the German version of Arthur and the Invisibles, dubbed by Madonna and Mylene Farmer in English and French), but he didn't consider her because he said she was basically a one-hit wonder who was able to capitalize more than once on the same song.

He also hates schlager (and I kept telling him there should be anything interesting or worth of note on the genre before listening to it myself :V), talking a little about Helene Fischer and Andrea Berg. Helene is a really good performer and I listened to the whole Farbenspiel A LOT during 2014, found it to be a really well crafted pop album, but I don't know if she has what it takes to produce more interesting tracks. Andrea Berg felt like a sad, ugly Seiko Matsuda with very bad music, but I don't know if I just listened to the wrong tracks. @_@

Not a popstar, but I found Nina Hagen to be amazing xD We have a very pathetic musician over here who loves her, and I never gave her a try because of him, but damn, she is good!

[attractive nausea]

In France there is no pop queen, except from Mylène Farmer, but she's been around for ages so... I can't think of any other french singer who could be called a queen. In the early 00's we had Lorie, a singer who got super popular, but her audience was mostly composed of children actually lmao, i remember loving her so much. Her popularity didn't last long though, she tried to come back in 2007 with a more mature and modern image but she failed, now she's totally "has been". If you don't know her you should check her song "Ta meilleure amie" which was her first hit, and then "Sur un air latino", also released during her peak. "Play" was released when she tried to come back in 2008 iirc.

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

I talked about German music with Noidea several times, and he also said he couldn't think of a German pop queen, even if he liked Sarah Connor. I never gave her a try because I don't like musicians based on non english speaking countries singing in English, but I wanna give her a try some day.

Her last release was a German album called "Muttersprache" (mother tongue), I didn't listened to it so I can't say anything regarding this album, but maybe you can give it a try and tell us if it's worth a listen?

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

He talked a little about Nena (who seens to have somewhat this status at least to some people, considering she was the voice actress for Princess Selenia on the German version of Arthur and the Invisibles, dubbed by Madonna and Mylene Farmer in English and French), but he didn't consider her because he said she was basically a one-hit wonder who was able to capitalize more than once on the same song.

Well Nena can't be considered a pop queen simply because she never made pop music. Actually Nena was a band which became popular in the 80's with the anti war song "99 Luftballons" and they made pop/rock music in the German new wave style and their genre therefore would be what we call "Neue Deutsche Welle" (German New Wave).
Later Nena became a solo artist but actually all the songs which made the band popular are still her only hits. She rereleased them with a more poppy arrangement in the 00's and one of the songs was also redone in English together with Kim Wild. I really love "99 Luftballons", "Nur geträumt" und "Irgendwie, irgendwann, irgendwo" (this one especially, it was the one redone together with Kim Wild as "Anywhere, anyplace anytime").

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

He also hates schlager (and I kept telling him there should be anything interesting or worth of note on the genre before listening to it myself :V), talking a little about Helene Fischer and Andrea Berg. Helene is a really good performer and I listened to the whole Farbenspiel A LOT during 2014, found it to be a really well crafted pop album, but I don't know if she has what it takes to produce more interesting tracks. Andrea Berg felt like a sad, ugly Seiko Matsuda with very bad music, but I don't know if I just listened to the wrong tracks. @_@

Oh god please, don't ever again call Schlager pop music. lol It simply isn't. xD Schlager has this Schlager beat which somehow people who aren't from Germany don't seem to notice or at least it doesn't bother them that much. Schlager is fun when you're drunk, but otherwise... god it's just horrible and I still don't get why people, who aren't from Germany, often like it. Bad music and Schlager basically can be used synonymously. lol
But then again people outside of Germany also seem to like those horrible dated 90's trance sounds like the "vogue (Groove Coverage Remix)". The remix is fun but trashy as hell.

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Not a popstar, but I found Nina Hagen to be amazing xD We have a very pathetic musician over here who loves her, and I never gave her a try because of him, but damn, she is good!

Haha yes she's fun. Sadly she seems to have taken to many drugs and is out of her mind and just emberrassing in public today, but she used to be a great artist.

[SayukiChoco]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

Btw, I haven't listened to Sarah's new german album yet. Is it worth a listen?

I think it's definitely worth a listen. I'm not her biggest fan, but there are two, three songs which are quite beautiful and nice to listen to. You should give it a try!

Originally Posted by Honey_Jae

My first tought was Helene Fischer or Andrea Berg as well for Germany xD I don't like both of them. But a Pop-Queen...don't know if we ever had one?! Most of German people listen to english music if they don't know asian music or like it. But I agree with you all and would say that Sarah Connor is the one you can mention in this case. We had No Angels and other but these were 5 girls so not a Pop-Queen. And from the other actual German singers there is no one in my mind who deserves this titel.

Andrea Berg omg But you're right, she has high sales too. I also agree with you guys that Schlager is NOT Pop music. There's just this difference that I can't really express. Maybe it's the beat like Chibi-Chan said.
Anyway, I also can't really think of someone else as a Pop queen apart from Sarah Connor... Maybe Jeannette Biedermann or Yvonne Catterfeld?

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by attractive nausea

In France there is no pop queen, except from Mylène Farmer, but she's been around for ages so... I can't think of any other french singer who could be called a queen. In the early 00's we had Lorie, a singer who got super popular, but her audience was mostly composed of children actually lmao, i remember loving her so much. Her popularity didn't last long though, she tried to come back in 2007 with a more mature and modern image but she failed, now she's totally "has been". If you don't know her you should check her song "Ta meilleure amie" which was her first hit, and then "Sur un air latino", also released during her peak. "Play" was released when she tried to come back in 2008 iirc.

Between Lorie, Alizee and Shy'm, who has the strongest career?

[orbitalaspect]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

^Alizee was Mylene Farmer's pupil, selected to be trained by Mylene and Laurent Boutonnat and having her first 2 albums produced by them... The partnership she had with the veterans ended before the 3rd album and I don't think she ever archieved the same status after that... But I'm not french either, so I may be underestimating her post Mylene x Laurent fame.

^^ Woah! That's a flashy concert! The aesthetics reminded me of Koda... I'm curious to listen to more of her stuff! Any recomended album?

^^^ I really liked Ana Torroja's first song you posted! I had heard of Marta Sanchez before, but still have to listen to any of her tracks.

No, you're not underestimating Alizee. Her relationship with Mylene was pretty bad at her second record, with Alizee at one point saying something to an interviewer that made Mylene and Laurent sound abusive and controlling. Alizee then split and did Psychedelices, which bombed, and she's since tried on other genres but largely gone unnoticed. For a long time, people thought her row with Mylene and Laurent had somewhat blacklisted her. She couldn't sign a major label deal and secure promotion for her records.

To be honest, I don't think Alizee has any star quality. She's very average on stage.

Mylene is a beast though, isn't she?! 14 number one hits. There is no way another French artist will catch up to her for several decades. And you can tell Mylene isn't riding Laurent's work. She had three #1 hits in a row without his name on them. We're it not for Mylene, I would still feel uncomfortable with my sexuality. Songs like QI and Degeneration helped so much.

With regard to Taiwan, I'm surprised you didn't mention aMEI with Jolin Tsai. aMEI has been the highest earning artist every year she had a release since the mid-00s. One year, she reportedly brought in more than twice the next highest earner, even though she was technically on break for more than 6 months of that year. She also has the highest selling Taiwanese album of all time. And she's the most famous aboriginal entertainer in Taiwan's history.

Awesome list!