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Old 24th August 2010, 01:52 AM
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People seem to think this is more vulgar, for some reason. (even though she looked stoned on the Mirrorcle World covers).

I don't think there is anything wrong with being sexy for the sake of being sexy at times. Ayu doesn't do it a lot and it's not too overt so I think it's fine.
I'm really looking forward to the whole shoot, that's for sure.
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Old 24th August 2010, 02:07 AM
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People seem to think this is more vulgar, for some reason. (even though she looked stoned on the Mirrorcle World covers).

I don't think there is anything wrong with being sexy for the sake of being sexy at times. Ayu doesn't do it a lot and it's not too overt so I think it's fine.
I'm really looking forward to the whole shoot, that's for sure.
well, all i have to say is that if i were as sexy as ayumi, i'd constantly be flaunting it!!! who can blame her?
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Old 24th August 2010, 01:56 AM
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Being sexy is only reserved for Koda Kumi!

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Old 24th August 2010, 02:00 AM
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Only she's not sexy heheh.

Gonna run away now!
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Old 24th August 2010, 02:03 AM
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Anyway! I can't wait to get my copy of this ViVi! There's a Kinokuniya a few states from me. I'm going to give them a few days to get it in stock and then call in my order right away lol.
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Old 24th August 2010, 02:39 AM
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I'm so sick and tired of this dark and heavy eyeliner look. Can't her makeup artist be a little more creative? It's beginning to look cartoonish and unflattering on her, especially when combined with her current hairstyle and color.

That, or she should start learning how to do the model squint. Opening your eyes that wide just doesn't work.
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Old 24th August 2010, 02:47 AM
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hot damn she's sexy i might turn gay for her srsly
she KILLS in those ripped jeans. ripped jeans look so freaking SEXY on her. god. i wish i looked that good in jeans.
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hot damn she's sexy i might turn gay for her srsly
she KILLS in those ripped jeans. ripped jeans look so freaking SEXY on her. god. i wish i looked that good in jeans.
not if i go straight for her first! hahaha!
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Old 24th August 2010, 03:29 AM
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i love you guys, seriously. this forum rocks. awesome people here! it's times like this when i feel that ayu is doing this all for us, to make us happy. and she succeeds. <3
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i love you guys, seriously. this forum rocks. awesome people here! it's times like this when i feel that ayu is doing this all for us, to make us happy. and she succeeds. <3
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^I see the point you're making but I've never found the Startin/Btb... covers to be sexual at all. @_@
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Old 24th August 2010, 07:25 AM
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If someone does something sexy, or wears something revealing, DOES NOT mean they are doing it to gain the attention of the opposite sex. It can do, yes, but not always. Sometimes it is simply for fun or because it makes said person feel good.

Considering Ayu's fanbase is largely female, and since this photoshoot is in a magazine that most men wouldnt go near, I highly doubt it has anything to do with appealing to men. I think if Ayu started appearing half naked in most of her photoshoots then there would be a reason to complain...I don't even know why I'm typing this anymore @_@.
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^ Women are not supposed to be sexual beings (in the eyes of men). Someone in JPM wrote some interesting stuff about a thing called Madonna/***** complex. It is scary but true, there are men who think like this even in 2010.

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If someone does something sexy, or wears something revealing, DOES NOT mean they are doing it to gain the attention of the opposite sex. It can do, yes, but not always. Sometimes it is simply for fun or because it makes said person feel good.

Considering Ayu's fanbase is largely female, and since this photoshoot is in a magazine that most men wouldnt go near, I highly doubt it has anything to do with appealing to men. I think if Ayu started appearing half naked in most of her photoshoots then there would be a reason to complain...I don't even know why I'm typing this anymore @_@.
I'm happy that you typed this. I agree 100%!

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Koda Kumi has mostly female fans... Even if by western standarts this photoshot is sexy, it's not what most japanese men find attractive at all... There's a reason why most of Morning Musume and AkH48 fanbase are made of older men, and why girls like Ai Otsuka and Aiko always own the "who would you like to date" polls

And this is the kind of girl people will see on male oriented erotic and pornographic publications and videos... Actually, Ayu was more like this when her covers were "artistic" than now... Most of her sexy shots (and not only Ayu's, but also Koda's and Namie's) are made to show power and control over her own sexuality, pretty much like Madonna do... Not really to attract men (actually, most men have tons of problem dealing with strong and sexual women, not only on Japan, but anywhere in the world)
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OMG they are absolutely amazing, the photoshoot preview it's so promising..she looks so gorgeous and i love her hair!!
the jeans wearing pics seems to be...wowow.
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*hearT_Place* explained so well, but like kagami tried to say I dont think main purpose of that shoot is to attract opposite sex. I think (considering she's already famous artist who has a lot of work behind her and that magazine is for women) that main message is to show how women know what they want and are not afraid to show it, especially in japanese public where cute and innocent girls are into the spot.
Like ayu herself said: we are not dolls
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Yup, agree with Andrenekoi... it's too bad that some guies still act like they're losing control, respect or interest in a woman if she is strong about her sexuality

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*hearT_Place* explained so well, but like kagami tried to say I dont think main purpose of that shoot is to attract opposite sex. I think (considering she's already famous artist who has a lot of work behind her and that magazine is for women) that main message is to show how women know what they want and are not afraid to show it, especially in japanese public where cute and innocent girls are into the spot.
Like ayu herself said: we are not dolls
I'll look up to Ayu even more if she really means it this way... but i have the feeling that many female artists get topless just to go with the flow, act cool and sell more too. Shock value is another kind of pressure, just as bad as playing angels.

Not meaning that Ayu does any of it, but i still wonder everytime... hope she's sincere in her works.
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Old 24th August 2010, 07:16 PM
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Her face looks gorgeous as usual...

but honestly she looks severly photoshopped/airbrushed on the chest,and with all due respect, i think that does NOT look natural.

(*runs to avoid rocks*)

Anyway, i dont think there is a hidden artistic purpose behind the picture at all. No story behind a pic, no artistic (and with artistic i mean alternative or groundbreaking) shoot or ideas, and certainly NO ABSTRACTIONS behind this picture.

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Yup, agree with Andrenekoi... it's too bad that some guies still act like they're losing control, respect or interest in a woman if she is strong about her sexuality

I'll look up to Ayu even more if she really means it this way... but i have the feeling that many female artists get topless just to go with the flow, act cool and sell more too. Shock value is another kind of pressure, just as bad as playing angels.
And well, towards your idea Mayayu, i think you are right, after all the idea of promotional pictures is to sell magazines, that's it. Just what almost every artist does. It's just a promotion pic like she always does, with a clear intention of provoking the eyes, nothing more than that.
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Old 24th August 2010, 07:54 PM
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By the way, she's not on the cover? I only see inside scans, no cover.
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Old 24th August 2010, 01:22 PM
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I don't get it.. people talk that much about those tattoos? I like them. But am I the only one noticing ayu showing the half of her breast in the scan? That's what creeps me out.. omg..
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Old 24th August 2010, 01:43 PM
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Koda Kumi has mostly female fans... Even if by western standarts this photoshot is sexy, it's not what most japanese men find attractive at all... There's a reason why most of Morning Musume and AkH48 fanbase are made of older men, and why girls like Ai Otsuka and Aiko always own the "who would you like to date" polls

This is sexy to most japanese men:


And this is the kind of girl people will see on male oriented erotic and pornographic publications and videos... Actually, Ayu was more like this when her covers were "artistic" than now... Most of her sexy shots (and not only Ayu's, but also Koda's and Namie's) are made to show power and control over her own sexuality, pretty much like Madonna do... Not really to attract men (actually, most men have tons of problem dealing with strong and sexual women, not only on Japan, but anywhere in the world)
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