[Official Message] ayumi confirmed to perform at a-nation Singapore on Oct 18th

[mizuki-7]

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pff we heard 5 sec of July 1st who is basically identical of what we heard in the "so edited" version ... and TV reports in my opinion are hardly flattering for any singer the sound and the quality are always bad !
I do not close my eyes on the fact that her voice may be edited but come on ! I don't heard so much of autotune.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

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pff we heard 5 sec of July 1st who is basically identical of what we heard in the "so edited" version ... and TV reports in my opinion are hardly flattering for any singer the sound and the quality are always bad !
I do not close my eyes on the fact that her voice may be edited but come on ! I don't heard so much of autotune.

A bad sound quality doesn't make you going off key and so on.
I think you're being really naive here.
It sounds as edited as her DVDs. (just compare).
I already compared several unedited tv lives and edited DVD lives, the difference is the same. You can clearly hear it, what is corrected and so on. It's really interesting imo.
Ayu never sang like that.
But if you don't hear the sound correction so much I understand why you don't agree with me. Her voice is overprocessed "nowadays", she looks like she is lipsynching the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

yall are so annoying with this voice shit.

I was at the final two dates of A BEST LIVE and she sounded superb. people try to tell me what I head when they weren't even there. I know it was 2013's concert but it's the same drama all the time. give it a rest!

You're the only one making dramas and being annoying. I'm just discussing politely on a forum you know.

[Zeke.]

Yes I hated when they started editing her voice in such a way too. It's too "smoothed" over and like blended. It removes life and sounds so strange.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

yall are so annoying with this voice shit.

I was at the final two dates of A BEST LIVE and she sounded superb. people try to tell me what I head when they weren't even there. I know it was 2013's concert but it's the same drama all the time. give it a rest!

[maxikot]

From Ayu's twitter ^-^ nice:

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

well the discussion is overdone and lame.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

well the discussion is overdone and lame.

If I had to complain whenever I read a lame and overdone discussion... I would have written 45000 posts!

At least we're talking about ayu and a real "issue"...

And to be clear I'm not saying she sounded bad the whole thing and criticizing her freely. I only heard like 10 sec of real live I can base my opinion on.
I'm just bored when I read comments about her voice when it's clearly edited and you can't actually know if she was good or not.

I was one of the few people to praise her voice on the TV report of Cdl 2013-2014... (Yet you can hear the editing in the final product if you compare).

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

...i'm glad you're smart enough to have the word issue in quotation marks.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

...i'm glad you're smart enough to have the word issue in quotation marks.

Uh...You don't have anything interesting to say do you?

Yet not being able to hear a singer's real voice is something frustrating imo (no TV lives, edited broadcastings). If it's not your case, glad for you.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

I just can't deal with the bitching. If it's that serious for you, go to a concert.

I had only skimmed through it earlier, but ESPECIALLY now after watching her performance in full...if you think this is edited that much, maybe you should check out CDL 13-14...? :/ I this this is spectacular.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

I just can't deal with the bitching. If it's that serious for you, go to a concert.

I had only skimmed through it earlier, but ESPECIALLY now after watching her performance in full...if you think this is edited that much, maybe you should check out CDL 13-14...? :/ I this this is spectacular.

And I'm the one "bitching", really.

I knew you would say, "so go to a concert". It's not a serious matter for me, as I just said I'm not into ayu that much anymore. It's just another thing which is sad with her. So I won't bother that much.

I'm not sure I understand what you say about CDL 13-14.
Her performances have been quite edited since the 10th anniversary or so? But the autotune is heavier nowadays. On every live.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

If you think THIS--


sounds like it has the same editing as the current a-nation performance just aired on TV, I think you might be deaf? (not you, specifically, but anyone)

[Chris85]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

If you think THIS--


sounds like it has the same editing as the current a-nation performance just aired on TV, I think you might be deaf? (not you, specifically, but anyone)

I was there, at the actual live. This performance is EDITED THE HELL OUT. She sounded VERY good singing this song, they didn't have to overdo pitch-correction.
And you know what? I still remember what you said when I shared POM instrumentals.

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

ugh, was hoping for a tell all. nobody cares about the PoM midis lol

I bought Tell all instrumental but my desire to share it was instantly killed.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

If you think THIS -- sounds like it has the same editing as the current a-nation performance just aired on TV, I think you might be deaf? (not you, specifically, but anyone)

Both lives are heavily edited, the end.
I don't know how you can nitpick comparing the processing level of two heavily edited lives while you're going crazy when I just say "You can't judge the vocals/you can hear heavy editing throughout the show".
This is going anywhere, really.

However I will try to answer you, WE WISH sounds more polished, but it can be due to the back track which is kinda loud, adding to the overall smoothness. So no big difference imo.

Originally Posted by Chris85

THANK YOU for this comment! I feel the same way. I can't enjoy her live releases since a-nation 2013 and A Best Live. I don't know what the heck happened to AVEX staff but they changed editing technology. I guess they switched from using Melodyne to using auto-tune. Now Ayu sounds like robot all the time. If you watch Asahi Dream Live you'll hear that old editing software was used and Ayu sounds like human! But all the rest live releases are real nightmare. I'm on verge of making a petition to stop this auto-tune abuse. The last live DVD I CAN enjoy is CDL 2012-2013.

What an attitude, so much disrespect as always. I was at 4 A Best lives and yes, she sounded good. It's not what we are discussing. It's overediting.

What a relief someone who actually read my posts! Glad you understood my point. At some point I thought my English was quite awful...
I'm not saying she was bad the whole show, I only heard like 10 sec. She doesn't need that much editing anymore IMO (at least I hope...), and that may explain why she sounds like a robot. She may be singing good enough, it's not perfect but it doesn't' require so much processing like in 2008.

And to me it is also very distracting. I'm already distracted by all the "drama" acting, all the dancers, now I'm also distracted by her voice! She sounds so perfect all the time, I feel less emotion through her voice, its seems so easy for her to sing without any effort. It's really weird. Those are one of the things that keep me from being excited by new lives.

[Plastick]

good posts on the voice editing part.

[TeamAyu2004]

Sometimes she is off key, but so is everyone when singing... and quite frankly computers ruin the way we THINK people should sound. When people want 'perfect' they mean they want computers... rarely if at all can people sing the way a computer makes the voice sound 'perfect'

[Plastick]

i still got some Cat A & B tickets to let go below cost price. pm me if your keen. thank you

[ExodusUK]

omg lmao

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

Somehow, I'll survive. That comment wasn't a personal attack on you, but my attack on how I feel about the PoM arrangements! LOL to this day I can't watch that concert.

[MoUsEy32]

Ayu's going for voice training and rehearsals now. Is it possible she's already in SG?! Or she could still have her rehearsals in Japan..