Rock'n'Roll Circus - 4/14 new album information [IV]

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by rakeru

Wooooow. Because international fans can't be as dedicated as holy TA.

No no, I think it's because they have rules against leaking the information, but it all ends up coming out anyway, haha.

[maikaru]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

No no, I think it's because they have rules against leaking the information, but it all ends up coming out anyway, haha.

Yes, I remember she was really angry about people writing about her diaries in other websites, when she believes TA is supposed to be just for her and TA.

I think people really have to get over the hating of TA... it doesn't make any sense, and it sounds like really a lot of people are jealous about TA because they can't join it. Just be glad you can get this information from people in TA, because really, they don't have to give you information. Why can't people be glad about it?

And yeah, I understand about why TA is saying that, because Ayu herself asked that we dont to share information outside of TA.

[I Am... Aaron]

Originally Posted by maikaru

Yes, I remember she was really angry about people writing about her diaries in other websites, when she believes TA is supposed to be just for her and TA.

I think people really have to get over the hating of TA... it doesn't make any sense, and it sounds like really a lot of people are jealous about TA because they can't join it. Just be glad you can get this information from people in TA, because really, they don't have to give you information. Why can't people be glad about it?

And yeah, I understand about why TA is saying that, because Ayu herself asked that we dont to share information outside of TA.

Ayu actually said she was "really angry" about it, seriously? Can you cite your source please I wanna see that...

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by I Am... Aaron

Ayu actually said she was "really angry" about it, seriously? Can you cite your source please I wanna see that...

It was during the hearing loss incident (as well as her breakup with Tomoya) and basically everything that reported it sourced her blog, which was supposed to be private between her fans/her.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...hlight=private

"Freedom of the press... etc... stuff."

[Misa-chan]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Wow, uh... some TeamAyu members seem to be arguing on a BBS about how TeamAyu members leaked the covers and appear to be blaming each other for leaking it and stuff on overseas sites and so on when it should be "TeamAyu exclusive"....

-crazy-

Originally Posted by all.night.raver

Wahh. Get over it TA. Lol.

Originally Posted by rakeru

Wooooow. Because international fans can't be as dedicated as holy TA.

Not saying this because I'm in TA myself, but I don't understand all this sarcasm and TA-bashing.



This was the information update posted on TA site itself. The 3rd line says very very clearly: Jacket covers LIMITED to TA. Of course, when people still leak them after reading this, some members are going to get angry. It's like a direct violation of ayu's and avex's wishes.

Think about it, TA members pay to be the first to receive information and release updates. Whether they choose to leak it out, it's up to them. They have the right to withhold the information, and no one has the right to say they're stingy/selfish. They paid for the privilege, afterall, and it isn't cheap.

Same goes for her TA blog entries, they're supposed to be exclusive for TA members. That's why I always only post translations, never her original Japanese text. Even so, if I ever get found out, I'm 100% sure I'll lose my TA membership.

Yeah, I understand it's sort of unfair that TA is only limited to Japan, but that doesn't give us foreign fans any right to bash the members. At the end of the day, TA is exclusive (rightly so), and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

That's all.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Misa-chan

Think about it, TA members pay to be the first to receive information and release updates. Whether they choose to leak it out, it's up to them. They have the right to withhold the information, and no one has the right to say they're stingy/selfish. They paid for the privilege, afterall, and it isn't cheap.

Same goes for her TA blog entries, they're supposed to be exclusive for TA members. That's why I always only post translations, never her original Japanese text. Even so, if I ever get found out, I'm 100% sure I'll lose my TA membership.

That's pretty much true and I understand what you're trying to say. Japanese people generally seem to think that way, which is in a way a good thing.

However these are just the covers that everyone will get too see in a couple of days and we all know that the TA members do get their money's worth in many other ways (ie tour lotteries, extra bonuses, TA magazine...) which the majority of us can only dream about. So while I understand some might feel they got cheated in a way, I kinda think that the fact that the 2 very small pictures got leaked isn't that big of a deal

On the other hand it's pretty unfair that we don't get the chance to legally join TA from our countries.

[Cherry Dynamite]

^ I second that I want to see that.

[nanakopy87]

yes.i remember that.ayuchina did the same also after the incident.no more TA blog post translation is allowed to post at ayuchina.

[Cherry Dynamite]

Ohwow thanks for the info~

[truehappiness]

For most of us, like at AHS, the only way to know new information about her work in Japan/wherever is to read her blog entries via translations, so it should be okay since we're all fans to some degree...

[nanakopy87]

if they are doing that just to gain profit,they can actually open the fans club to international fans.i believe many international fans will join
other than that,i agree with maikaru

[Zeke.]

Ok well I would gladly pay the fee to join TA but...

I'M IN AMERICA.

I'm willing to pay but it wouldn't get me all of the perks of joining if I were in Japan. So it's kind of like, a disregard for us other fans...?

[I Am... Aaron]

I'm in the U.S. too and ABSOLUTELY would join TA if it was allowed. So I don't feel bad in the least for getting info or leaks from them.

That said however, I do NOT want to hurt Ayu in any way shape or form, and if she wants it kept to herself and TA I would have to try and respect that. Now I almost feel guilty. I love Ayu and appreciate her so much, and I don't want to go against her wishes...

[asmAyumi1992]

^yeah, you're right. I really wanna join TA very much. But if Ayu wanna keep it with the Japanese only also I wouldn't mind.

[truehappiness]

My post was just bringing up the arguments that people were having after finding it on BBSes. It seemed to be getting pretty crazy before people stopped. I see where the TA members are coming from when they're a little irked about what's going on with information, but I suppose it happens a lot. It's the first time I've been reading this BBS during a release, so it was interesting imo.

[nanakopy87]

means the covers we saw yesterday is for TA members only?

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by nanakopy87

means the covers we saw yesterday is for TA members only?

Yes...? That's usually the case for these early releases like for NEXT LEVEL's covers and etc...

[Foyuki]

usually TA will update covers some hours before official website(or at the same time)
But if TA added "LIMITED to TA"
then official update will be later than usual

[nanakopy87]

i see.does that means they might change the cover layout etc?

[Foyuki]

avex always do updates like"squeezing the toothpaste."
and they seem don't worry about ayu's sales volume.
=,=
I've never seen any ayu-rips leaked out in JP.