[CHARTS + SALES] GUILTY -- ORICON STYLE Thread 4

[UHPlus]

118 136 **1,593 *,526,225 *36 安室奈美惠 「PLAY」
145 134 **1,245 *,564,290 *12 浜崎あゆみ 「GUILTY」


at week 36 of [PLAY] , it sold ever more then week 12 of GUILTY...

it don't looked good

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by AyuGAME

^Where did you get that ranking?

Originally Posted by 4ever*ayu

@ riozz : source please, for the Indonesian chart?

my friend told me...
he asked the store or what i dont know..
he just said the position and total sales in ayufreak..
so that's why i said it's accurate or not i dunno

[AyuGAME]

Originally Posted by riozz

my friend told me...
he asked the store or what i dont know..
he just said the position and total sales in ayufreak..
so that's why i said it's accurate or not i dunno

ok...
i think 2k is pretty high sales...
remember that pirates is everywhere in indonesia

[4ever*ayu]

^no links, heh...

thx anyway, thx to your friend too!!

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by 4ever*ayu

^no links, heh...

thx anyway, thx to your friend too!!

You're welcome ^-^
Yeah he's pretty discreet about it lol, I'm sure they're from some oricon blogs or something though.

[criminal]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

You're welcome ^-^
Yeah he's pretty discreet about it lol, I'm sure they're from some oricon blogs or something though.

I'm pretty sure he gets the numbers from the 2ch message board.

[4ever*ayu]

^well said,,then we just need to believe....

[TITANIC]

^ yah..
and you know there are alot of fans prefer buy import dan local production

[andrepaul]

You can have all oricon's numbers if you are members (paid).
http://ranking.oricon.co.jp/

[TITANIC]

^ weeww.. we should pay to get the info??
awful

[TITANIC]

OMG...
play sell higher than GUILTY..
poor ayu.
maybe because 60s70s80s realese give good impact for play album

[ayumisrael]

But GUILTY sold more overall and it's still charting =P

60s70s80s pretty much gave PLAY a boost most likely.

[UHPlus]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

But GUILTY sold more overall and it's still charting =P

namie is also STILL charting after more than 9 months and even higher then ayu's

it doesn't matter only around 40K, not much different imo ...in a few months time both will be around the same

look at the progression of these two jpop queen:

(2000)
ayumi hamasaki Duty : 2,904,420
namie amuro break the rules : 334,520

(2003)
ayumi hamasaki Memorial address : 1,062,297
namie amuro STYLE : 221,874

(2008)
ayumi hamasaki GUILTY : 564,290
namie amuro PLAY : 526,225

the difference was used to be SO MUCH...now? it's barely.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by UHPlus

namie is also STILL charting after more than 9 months and even higher then ayu's

it doesn't matter only around 40K, not much different imo ...in a few months time both will be around the same

look at the progression of these two jpop queen:

(2000)
ayumi hamasaki Duty : 2,904,420
namie amuro break the rules : 334,520

(2003)
ayumi hamasaki Memorial address : 1,062,297
namie amuro STYLE : 221,874

(2008)
ayumi hamasaki GUILTY : 564,290
namie amuro PLAY : 526,225

the difference was used to be SO MUCH...now? it's barely.

Basically becaues ayu's getting a bit less popular after every album?

I would compare Secret sales with PLAY though, last year general sales were better than this year

[UHPlus]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I would compare Secret sales with PLAY though, last year general sales were better than this year

i will compare their most RECENT work...

if you want i can compare namie's SWEET 19 BLUES and ayu's A song for XX but it don't make sense...why compare secret to namie's latest play?

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by UHPlus

i will compare their most RECENT work...

if you want i can compare namie's SWEET 19 BLUES and ayu's A song for XX but it don't make sense...why compare secret to namie's latest play?

Obviously because GUILTY was released 2 months ago. You could compare Namie's latest album sales PLAY that was released 8 months ago, to ayu's lastest album Secret that was released 7 months before PLAY (you could do it just 2 months ago).
Now that is not fair is it?

And it's obvious ayu's album sales won't go up if something special wouldn't occure.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

last year general sales were better than this year

I think this year's sales will be a bit better than last year's.

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

I think this year's sales will be a bit better than last year's.

i have a different idea..
this year will become her 2nd lower sales after 1998 era...

i predict she can sell 1,2 million copies this year

[elepop]

I'm not surprised of Namie getting more popular and Ayu selling less. Namie's music style IMO attracts more people now. As for Ayu, she has been sticking with the same music genre, except for the hardcore rock that is getting less and less popular in Japan. HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR (a rock band) aren't as popular as they were when they debuted. Right now, people seems to be a lot more into urban or mellow rock like YUI, ayaka, Kobukuro... Pop is slowing fading away.

[UHPlus]

Originally Posted by asongforXX

I'm not surprised of Namie getting more popular and Ayu selling less. Namie's music style IMO attracts more people now. As for Ayu, she has been sticking with the same music genre, except for the hardcore rock that is getting less and less popular in Japan. HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR (a rock band) aren't as popular as they were when they debuted. Right now, people seems to be a lot more into urban or mellow rock like YUI, ayaka, Kobukuro... Pop is slowing fading away.

namie is going the creative and ever changing style of music, while new comers like ayaka, YUI are going the simple yet new/refreshing style of music..

ayu is just going the same flashy, high-production, depressing lyrics, emotional songs, fancy PVs she did for years and years....

when you do something the same for too long a time, it's normal for ppl to get bored and uninterested with it, it's reality...