[2006] Black Cherry vs. Secret (oh yes, I went there!)

[paperbag]

Well I just barely got my Secret CD in the mail O_O;;
so I was warming up to both Secret and Black Cherry. As much as I love Kuu, I think this wasn't up there. My favorite album is still "secret" which had stronger tracks than "Black Cherry"

[MsMiyabi]

Originally Posted by Keishi

This poll is silly because:
+Black Cherry has just released. It hasn't grow on most people yet. While Secret has.
+This is an Ayu forum. With a large amounts of Anti-Koda Ayumites.


And s1012h, because your statement "it's Koda and Ayu" is a bit questionable. Koda's fame was just a year ago O_O

took the words right out of my mouth.

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by Keishi

+Black Cherry has just released. It hasn't grow on most people yet. While Secret has.

Then you can look at the initial reviews of Secret in the older threads, it's a lot of postive and hardly any negative, compared to Kumi's CD.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Keishi

This poll is silly because:
+Black Cherry has just released. It hasn't grow on most people yet. While Secret has.
+This is an Ayu forum. With a large amounts of Anti-Koda Ayumites.


And s1012h, because your statement "it's Koda and Ayu" is a bit questionable. Koda's fame was just a year ago O_O

Even in Koda-focused areas, the album is disliked. So, your argument kind of fails there.

And there are Anti-Ayu people here too. :\

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

But most albums only have like 4/5 new songs anyways... What differs from Black Cherry and those albums eg. BoA's Outgrow is that Outgrow didn't have like 8/9 released tracks on it....

Actually, OUTGROW had 9 songs that were released as singles/digital single before the album came out. I think (m)u had 8 released and 6 new songs? (not including interludes)

[Keishi]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Even in Koda-focused areas, the album is disliked. So, your argument kind of fails there.

And there are Anti-Ayu people here too. :\

My Jesus. That's what you get from roaming on JPM too much.
http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...d.php?tid=2151

[Rebirthia]

Mad C. love your sig LOL!!!!!!!

I CHOSE SECRET, because i really like this Ayu's album, and because black cherry is really bad, just have some nice songs ... too much crap along the album . won't be long is just horrible. and the ballads sound all the same to me. i didn't expect nothing more, either LOL

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by Keishi

My Jesus. That's what you get from roaming on JPM too much.
http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...d.php?tid=2151

Of course, that's a Koda forum. Looking elsewhere is the best method. Ayu's album was really received well in a whole lot of big forums, even Utada's and Mika's. I bet JPM and T-N also like Secret.

http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...tid=13&page=17
The people there love Secret too.

Black Cherry however garnered a whole lot of negative reviews no matter where you go too. Only her fans loved it. It's really pointless arguing about the album, a majority of people who aren't her fans didn't like it, it's going to sell well regardless in Japan anyway, the end. Even if it wasn't very bad, the hype among music-lovers outside Japan just killed it.

Originally Posted by Ayesha

Mad C. love your sig LOL!!!!!!!

And thanks!

[Keishi]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Of course, that's a Koda forum. Looking elsewhere is the best method.

That one was directed to th. I was trying to prove that in a koda thread/forum/whatever, the album is still liked.

Even in Koda-focused areas, the album is disliked. So, your argument kind of fails there.

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Ayu's album was really received well in a whole lot of big forums, even Utada's and Mika's. I bet JPM and T-N also like Secret.

http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...tid=13&page=17
The people there love Secret too.

I didn't mention anyone hating Secret.

Black Cherry however garnered a whole lot of negative reviews no matter where you go too. Only her fans loved it. It's really pointless arguing about the album, a majority of people who aren't her fans didn't like it, it's going to sell well regardless in Japan anyway, the end. Even if it wasn't very bad, the hype among music-lovers outside Japan just killed it.

And thanks!

Exactly. Only her fans loved it. I agree with you on this.

[elepop]

^ Well, I'm a Kuu fan but not a "Black Cherry" fan. =S

Originally Posted by Keishi

This poll is silly because:
+Black Cherry has just released. It hasn't grow on most people yet. While Secret has.
+This is an Ayu forum. With a large amounts of Anti-Koda Ayumites.

I agree with those points. It's true that the album just released. "BC" needs time for some to grow on them. Like me. And yes. It's an Ayu forum, so it's pretty much expected. I'm sure some Ayu fans that don't even listen to Koda voted anyway. This poll is almost pointless.

But Anthony brought a good point. And that is the fact that the album isn't very well-loved either. Well, at least not as much as I expected people to be. While some newer fans love it, I think most people from the "secret" time prefer that style, like me. Though, some older fans still love "BC".

Still haven't heard "Secret"...

[Keishi]

Well, we'll about to see how is Japan react with this album.
127,022 copies in ONE day. W00T.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/special/061221_04.html

[Psychotic_X]

^ actually that's not it... lol...

[elepop]

Originally Posted by Keishi

Well, we'll about to see how is Japan react with this album.
127,022 copies in ONE day. W00T.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/special/061221_04.html

Yeah, I'm not too sure that's the first day sale either. I think those are for overall top sellers.

[Keishi]

Overall? Hmm...not sure. Hopefully someone can correct me.

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by Keishi

I didn't mention anyone hating Secret.

Neither did I. I was comparing initial reactions towards Secret and Black Cherry.

[elepop]

Originally Posted by Keishi

Overall? Hmm...not sure. Hopefully someone can correct me.

Yeah, I'm starting to doubt that it's the overall sales. XD Because there's no way Ayu beat KAT-TUN.

[Mad_Cactuar]

If what you said is true, Keishi, then Ayu would have sold 69,000 copies of Secret on the first day of it's 4th week.

I hope you realize that you posted those figures in the Year End Oricon Charts thread. They're the total monetary value in yen per artist.

[Keishi]

Well, I think I did put "yen" next to the cash amount.

[truehappiness]

I have a feeling that BC won't get to a million, but it'll get close.
After all, this isn't a best.

[..:Hot:Like:Wow:..]

I think BC will sell 877,000 or less