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Old 27th July 2005, 03:15 PM
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deeper meaning into fairyland pv?

i was watching the pv for the ___th time ( too much to count) and it struck me. perhaps fairyland isnt just a sing and dance pv.

at the first half of the song, everyone is happy together, playing together, such good friends. however, their true colours were seen when tragedy strikes, when the house got burnt down. no one cared about ayu, they just pushed her away. den the scene changes to the waterfall, where she was still so happy. perhaps this meant that she was better alone, who needs such fair weathered friends? so the scene changes back to the burning house, whereby she isnt that sad, but still a little affected by it. maybe she was, after all, still sentimental.

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Old 27th July 2005, 06:09 PM
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I don't think it was because they didn't care about her. If i'm not mistaken some were trying to drag her along with them, but she just stood there because all her memories with her friends were burnt away with the cabin and she couldn't bear it I suppose.
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Old 27th July 2005, 06:46 PM
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IMO, it's telling how egoist a human can be. I think Ayu just stood there because there are so much good memories in that cabin, and no one would care. They just care bout theirselves, running away. So she decided to go by herself, to her fairyland. where she always happy, not thinking about others.

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Old 27th July 2005, 07:05 PM
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or maybe they danced around the entire cabin the entire day and they can't go back to it and dance because it's all gone, and she's struck into the mode of "I should've danced more"
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Old 27th July 2005, 07:10 PM
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^haha nice theory Basically my oppinion is like ayufan89 mankind can really be frightening specie(forgot how to spell that )
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Old 27th July 2005, 08:43 PM
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hehe the PV kinda reminded me of Kingdom Hearts with the whole "happy on an island!" thing, then something bad happens lol...but to me, it didn't look like her friends were trying to help her...like when the one girl just kinda runs into her and falls to the ground. Now if someone actually grabbed her arm to pull her away, it would look like they were helping .

All in all, I think the PV really holds no deeper meaning...well nothing TOO deep, like alterna.
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Old 27th July 2005, 10:28 PM
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I agree with ayufan. Also notice that when the fire starts, Ayumi is the only one that notices it. The rest just go on dancing oblivious to it.
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Old 27th July 2005, 10:59 PM
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over analyzing again, aren't we?!

Ayu stood alone there to watch the burning, because that's kind of scene been use over the time many folds over in scenes like that, to show how much that missing/burning subject mean to a person, in this case Ayu. Others are running away, because the place is on fire. Simple as that. That's how you make it believable for scenes like that.

The dancing and cabin is the fairyland, and the waterfall and islands, blah blah

The burning signals the fertility and the end of the fairyland. It's her memory, her past expectations and wishes, and they're gone, in reality, before her eyes.

That's my take.

The ending in waterfall and being happy again, maybe is a new fairyland, new happiness, or just she's reliving her old memories again, don't know.

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Old 27th July 2005, 11:13 PM
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Does her PV have anything to do with the lyrics? I haven't found a translation for them yet, but maybe they'll explain the meaning behind the PV.

However, I don't think her friends were leaving her behind. I think Ayu is really sensitive to the nuances of the human personality (hence her fabulous lyrics), and reads into things more. I agree that she's remembering all the good times they had in that house and mourning its loss while everyone else is more concerned with saving their lives.

In another way, fairyland could also be considered idealism/naivity/childhood innocence. In childhood, everything is perfect, like fairyland, but it eventually has to fall apart. People like Ayu notice it falling apart and try to hold on to it even when its burning down. Other people try to ignore it until it becomes impossible, and then the knowledge of disillusionment becomes to painful to bear (i.e. the fire gets too hot) so they run away and leave it all behind. Eventually, they get settled in reality, a new and different form of fairyland.

Lol... maybe i'm reading into it too much also, but analyzing can be fun.
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Does her PV have anything to do with the lyrics? I haven't found a translation for them yet, but maybe they'll explain the meaning behind the PV.

However, I don't think her friends were leaving her behind. I think Ayu is really sensitive to the nuances of the human personality (hence her fabulous lyrics), and reads into things more. I agree that she's remembering all the good times they had in that house and mourning its loss while everyone else is more concerned with saving their lives.

In another way, fairyland could also be considered idealism/naivity/childhood innocence. In childhood, everything is perfect, like fairyland, but it eventually has to fall apart. People like Ayu notice it falling apart and try to hold on to it even when its burning down. Other people try to ignore it until it becomes impossible, and then the knowledge of disillusionment becomes to painful to bear (i.e. the fire gets too hot) so they run away and leave it all behind. Eventually, they get settled in reality, a new and different form of fairyland.

Lol... maybe i'm reading into it too much also, but analyzing can be fun.
I think there is a translation floating around with mentioning to childhood.
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Old 27th July 2005, 11:16 PM
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Cool, I'll dig around for it
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Old 27th July 2005, 11:29 PM
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It's in this forum's news section right now

go to the second page and read masa's translation

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...9&page=2&pp=20
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Old 27th July 2005, 11:33 PM
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Lol! Thanks lolo66

So, Fairyland does have something to do with childhood...
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Old 27th July 2005, 11:34 PM
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don't mention it
yup yup childhood is there
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Old 28th July 2005, 12:43 AM
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pv has no "deeper" meaning, or if it does, contact the director and found out from them

why do peopel spend so much time watching videos of ayumi and stalking her "omg she's been in this magazine!!" and try to find so much behind ayumi's stuff, i mean yes im a fan, i defend her most of the time but in all realism, she's probably as dumb as rock since she quit school at 16 and might have business/street smarts but im sure if you introduced her to a college student for an intellectual convo she'd get lost

then again she doesnt really need to be smart cuz she's so rich but im trailing off here

point is, its a video, a music video thats no longer than 6min, i mean was there super deep hidden meanings to Daybreak? ultra deep hidden meanings to greatfuldays? or just assumptions people make, much like in english classes when the teacher tells you all of the symbolism and foreshadowing that occurs when in actuallity the author doesnt intend so much as people predict.

If anyone knows of Ursla K Leguin (she wrote earth sea trilogy) she is one of my favorite authors and when in my college class i asked her if she used as much foreshadowing as my teachers from the past explained she said no, it all falls in as being a good writter. probably much like some of ayumis dumber videos, look for things that arent there... leads to assumptions in real life (foreshadows and outlines peoples real characteristics from here to real life) you obsess, cling, and wont let go and study and look for things that arent there to try to give them meaning. then in the end you find yourself lost in confusion because you're trying to make fire with no air
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Old 28th July 2005, 02:54 AM
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pv has no "deeper" meaning, or if it does, contact the director and found out from them

why do peopel spend so much time watching videos of ayumi and stalking her "omg she's been in this magazine!!" and try to find so much behind ayumi's stuff, i mean yes im a fan, i defend her most of the time but in all realism, she's probably as dumb as rock since she quit school at 16 and might have business/street smarts but im sure if you introduced her to a college student for an intellectual convo she'd get lost

then again she doesnt really need to be smart cuz she's so rich but im trailing off here

point is, its a video, a music video thats no longer than 6min, i mean was there super deep hidden meanings to Daybreak? ultra deep hidden meanings to greatfuldays? or just assumptions people make, much like in english classes when the teacher tells you all of the symbolism and foreshadowing that occurs when in actuallity the author doesnt intend so much as people predict.

If anyone knows of Ursla K Leguin (she wrote earth sea trilogy) she is one of my favorite authors and when in my college class i asked her if she used as much foreshadowing as my teachers from the past explained she said no, it all falls in as being a good writter. probably much like some of ayumis dumber videos, look for things that arent there... leads to assumptions in real life (foreshadows and outlines peoples real characteristics from here to real life) you obsess, cling, and wont let go and study and look for things that arent there to try to give them meaning. then in the end you find yourself lost in confusion because you're trying to make fire with no air
I respect your opinion, but I think the reason we "cling" is simply because that's what makes the ayu fandom. What would be the fun of being an ayu fan other than her music and (I guess) looks? Although I agree that "fairyland" is one of her lesser inspirational videos, I think it's nice that people would discuss about it and try and "discover" the meaning behind it.

It's fans and their devotion like this that keep a strong fanbase. Not only that, but this is a forum. If everyone here thought as you with "why over-analyze ayu stuff? It's not what you think. There's no point", then there would be no point for this forum's existance. For a strong fanbase, you need to over-analyze and you need to want to understand whatever the interest is, a little further. It makes you feel better connected with the subject.

If *you* don't understand why we do this, well then that's all right. This just isn't what you're interested in about ayu, but don't say that there's no value in it (a vibe I got from your post...), because that doesn't apply to everyone.

Oh, and saying ayu could be "as dumb as a rock" and "confused" during an "intellectual conversation"....you wouldn't think that reading her lyrics, hm?
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Old 28th July 2005, 03:00 AM
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Oh, and saying ayu could be "as dumb as a rock" and "confused" during an "intellectual conversation"....you wouldn't think that reading her lyrics, hm?

haha, i completely agree. Her Lyrics amaze me. besides, it takes more than an education to make someone intelligent... it takes life experience. and from reading about Ayu's life, its clear she has some.
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Old 28th July 2005, 07:17 AM
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...i defend her most of the time but in all realism, she's probably as dumb as rock since she quit school at 16 and might have business/street smarts but im sure if you introduced her to a college student for an intellectual convo she'd get lost.
That has to be the most ignorant and rude thing I have ever read on this forum.

So what if people over anazlyze her PV's? It's their choice to do so, She may be as dumb as a rock as you claim but she's doing way better than you


I also believe the PV had something to do with friendship.
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Old 28th July 2005, 03:44 AM
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People are allowed to analyze her PVs. Doesn't mean anyone is "stalking" or being "too clingy." Some people just enjoy looking at and trying to discern the meaning of things - even if it turns out there is no deeper meaning. They don't need to be berated for it as there is absolutely nothing wrong with it whatsoever. It's a healthy form of human expression and does no more harm than writing essays about the meaning of say, Catcher in the Rye in an English class.

And one more thing. School has very little relation to how smart a person actually is. Her dropping out signals to me that she didn't quit school because she was stupid, but that she figuired out an early age that it just was not important to her life. A quote from one of her interviews was something along the lines of that in Science class she realized that whatever color the solution changed to would have absolutely no effect on her life.

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Old 28th July 2005, 04:11 AM
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She quit school because people thought she was slow. She was embarassed of her deep coarse voice and spent lots of time pondering. So, by labeling her "slow", she was stuck and wouldn't be able to succeed much anyway.

Part of being a good writer is just that - doing things that seem natural and don't need more thought. We look at the greatest writers for their symbolism, and although we may overanalyze, their idea had to stem from somewhere, whether innate or accidental, its a part of being a great writer.

The truth of the matter is, that we don't know if Ayu has parts that are intended for a specific message or not. If the symbolism is, kudos to her. If it is not, at least it was interesting. There is no wrong answer. Furthermore, everyone has their own strengths. By intellectual conversation, I'm sure I could confuse her with biochemistry and such. But she will definitly know some things that would confuse me, too. I'm not only defending her, but I think everyone deserves to be looked at their bests.

And back on topic! Sorry for the long post. But I think the pv's meaning is just that although many summers are joyful, there will be some that are hard. And when it gets hard, your joyful memories of the past don't seem to really matter as much at the moment.
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