Ayu's vibrato- Fake?

[walking proud]

I wouldn't nessesarily say it's "fake" but on videos, her jaw and lips move up and down (and even on concerts!- A MUSEUM "forgiveness" namely) and when it's a "true" vibrato your mouth isn't supposed to move. Is this just showmanship or is she really doing vibrato incorrectly?

[hopeorpain]

mmm I would like to know this too!

[RAISKA]

I thought...that when it's true vibration, you use your throat's power..but I think still, you move your lips too...

if it's fake...OMG!

[Raleigh]

Nah not fake as far as I know.

[aYuH-evolution]

Those who do true vibrato don't move their lips. But since I see a professional singer moving her lips, my personal opinion is that it depends on how people use their vibrato.

[PrismaticTears]

Originally Posted by walking proud

I wouldn't nessesarily say it's "fake" but on videos, her jaw and lips move up and down (and even on concerts!- A MUSEUM "forgiveness" namely) and when it's a "true" vibrato your mouth isn't supposed to move. Is this just showmanship or is she really doing vibrato incorrectly?

It is false. True vibrato comes from proper breath control and she wiggles her jaw to quaver the notes by changing the opening through which breath is released (imagine a recorder, you blow it makes a noise, you close different holes and leaves others open and it creates a different pitch, now just press a hole rapidly and it's about as close as you can come to a blatant picture of it) creating a -somewhat- similar sound but it wouldn't fool anyone who's taken a vocal music class.

[ohsixthirty]

hey, she may do it incorrectly, but it still sounds good, haha.

[Delirium-Zer0]

I think it sounds awful What's sad is that her faster, more subtle vibrato (done during the I am... era) was properly done and sounded much better.

^ I'm with you on this one, Delirium! Aside from the fact that it sounds forced, when you watch her perform live with this faux-vibrato, it looks pretty funny. ^^;

[*Petit*]

Generally it sounds good (not neccessarily correct) but sometimes she overdoes it and she soundsmore like a parody than a serious performer. I think the "worst" example I've heard is the Voyage performance in which she forgets the words (i see no mouth wiggeling though) and in the dearest performance from 2001 christmas. The strange part is that I really love those performances, althoguh I think her vibrato is totally out of control in some places.

[ohsixthirty]

^see...i think the more vibrato the better...i really love vibrato. maybe i'm the only one?

[*Petit*]

Originally Posted by touchedstar

^see...i think the more vibrato the better...i really love vibrato. maybe i'm the only one?

I love her vibrato. =)

[SunshineSlayer]

Yeah, I really don't care if it's done correctly or not. What matters is that it sounds right so who's to say that this is the "wrong" way - it works for her.

[Delirium-Zer0]

I don't think it sounds right though. It gets hard to tell what note she's actually hitting, and it sounds awkward like she's teetering between two different notes. It's gotten better since mid 2002 when it started, but it's still icky at times. (but the most annoying to me is "Who..." on A BALLADS. oh god. i can't even listen to it.)

[Biscuit]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

(but the most annoying to me is "Who..." on A BALLADS. oh god. i can't even listen to it.)

Oh Lord, that is seriously the worst sound I'd ever heard. I refused to get A Ballads for that very reason. Her vibrato is better now, but I hate when she drags it out and it starts to sound like it's wavering really badly. It almost sounds like a kid wailing or something.

[hamayu]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

I don't think it sounds right though. It gets hard to tell what note she's actually hitting, and it sounds awkward like she's teetering between two different notes. It's gotten better since mid 2002 when it started, but it's still icky at times. (but the most annoying to me is "Who..." on A BALLADS. oh god. i can't even listen to it.)

first of all. her vibrato in my opinion sounds great. like someone else said. who cares if its done incorrectly it works for her.its not like shes using some special drug or watever to make her voice sound good and for her to be able to have a vibrato. Whats the point of a vibrato? for songs to sound good right? so if she needs a little help by moving her jaw den who cares? it still sounds great! its like saying that the ppl who nead hearing aids arent really hearing correcty because dey need a hearing aid to help them. u cant call the way they r hearing it fake and incorrect just cuz dey need some help.(im not sure if dat made sense xD;

Second. If u dont like the song, DONT LISTEN TO IT! who cares if u cant listen to it? its ur opinion. u dont like the song. Great! den dont listen to it. no one is forcing u.__.;; ok i sound really really dumb but i dunt care xD;; im sry im making a big deal out of this but xD;; dats me!><;; besides, ur making the song sound really bad wen its not! it used to b my favourite song.><;;

[walking proud]

Originally Posted by hamayu

first of all. her vibrato in my opinion sounds great. like someone else said. who cares if its done incorrectly it works for her.its not like shes using some special drug or watever to make her voice sound good and for her to be able to have a vibrato. Whats the point of a vibrato? for songs to sound good right? so if she needs a little help by moving her jaw den who cares? it still sounds great! its like saying that the ppl who nead hearing aids arent really hearing correcty because dey need a hearing aid to help them. u cant call the way they r hearing it fake and incorrect just cuz dey need some help.(im not sure if dat made sense xD;

Second. If u dont like the song, DONT LISTEN TO IT! who cares if u cant listen to it? its ur opinion. u dont like the song. Great! den dont listen to it. no one is forcing u.__.;; ok i sound really really dumb but i dunt care xD;; im sry im making a big deal out of this but xD;; dats me!><;; besides, ur making the song sound really bad wen its not! it used to b my favourite song.><;;

You don't have to defend Ayu like it's life or death, we all like her or obviously we wouldn't be here; delirium was just saying that they didn't like a song by her and thought that the song was sung incorrectly, and it's fully their opinion, you don't have to defend it as if it were being slandered

[starr5245]

I also feel that the I am... era was the best. Kind of sad, thinking back about it.

[Neo Daydream]

there's not really any such thing as "fake vibrato". i mean, there are ppl but that naturally have vibrato but itz really just something singers can use at their own discrestion(sp?)... if you naturally sing w/ vibrato, you can train yourself to lose it and if you naturally sing straight-toned (w/ no vibrato) you can learn how to use vibrato... i'm thinkin vibrato is just something Ayu has picked up in her singing and she likes it, so she uses it... i know alot of ppl whose jaw and lips and even whole head shakes when they use vibrato and they don't even realize it...

i like her w/ or w/out vibrato ^^

[ph33r]

Her vibrato is too wide, yet too slow to be "vibrato", so the tone is actually shifting too much. Another problem is that she uses the same type of vibrato for most songs (if not all). Different genres of music should have different speed/vibration. And sometimes she does does it too frequently.

But nonetheless I'm fine with it. Althought I have to agree with everyone else who said this, that her I am era vibrato was the best.