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Old 14th January 2008, 08:22 PM
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^Thats not manipulating the chart. If he genuinely buys 20,000 it has to be counted
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Old 16th January 2008, 02:52 AM
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^Thats not manipulating the chart. If he genuinely buys 20,000 it has to be counted
No one is gonna buy 20,000 copies if their intention isn't manipulate the charts, that's quite obvious. So yeah, if you buy 20.000 copies, it's against the law, even if you 'genuinely' buys it.
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Old 16th January 2008, 03:09 AM
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No one is gonna buy 20,000 copies if their intention isn't manipulate the charts, that's quite obvious. So yeah, if you buy 20.000 copies, it's against the law, even if you 'genuinely' buys it.
Well, AVEX can always say that they brought 20,000 copies of Guilty for charity.....like a music charity overseas. They just make up a name or whatever. Besides, AVEX doesn't have to buy it. They can just get one of their "simple" minded workers to buy 20,000 copies [AVEX gives them the money] for charity.

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Old 14th January 2008, 09:11 PM
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No, boybands are not a cycle in Japan. They've been popular for at least 20 years. Solo females on the other hand had their peak in the late 1990s/early 2000s (?)
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Old 14th January 2008, 09:56 PM
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Old 14th January 2008, 10:08 PM
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^lol she would've been #1 for 3 weeks if it weren't for kobukuro

at least she broke 500k this week.
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ooh.. so low X(

dun care 2 much now XD
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Old 15th January 2008, 02:55 AM
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yeahh. 500k, i hope she'll broke up 700k in the 4th week!
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Old 15th January 2008, 04:36 AM
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No, it's not a cycle. I mean, what other boybands have been selling amazingly well besides EXILE? The Johnny's boybands? They've been selling well for decades. So yeah, it's not a cycle and boybands aren't suddenly selling well, their sales have been pretty consistent in Japan since forever and the only suddenly big boyband is EXILE, Kobokuro is not a boyband. Plus, EXILE have had big selling albums and singles before, anyway.

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No, boybands are not a cycle in Japan. They've been popular for at least 20 years. Solo females on the other hand had their peak in the late 1990s/early 2000s (?)
No, I'm not saying they are not selling bad back then. What I mean is that there's always a moment a particular group outsells the others. Boybands didn't sell bad (and in fact their sales have been quite consistent), but the girls just outold them back then. I wouldn't say the females dominated the chart (like took all yearly top 10 spaces), but usually those top 3 positions were occupied by artists like hikki, ayu, or mai, misia, ringo, momosu, etc (esp hikki and ayu).

So I hope that some female artists (or even a more serious male / male duo) will pound those boybands soon... (well it'll be excellent if those females will be hikki and ayu again LOL)
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Old 16th January 2008, 02:55 AM
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No, I'm not saying they are not selling bad back then. What I mean is that there's always a moment a particular group outsells the others. Boybands didn't sell bad (and in fact their sales have been quite consistent), but the girls just outold them back then. I wouldn't say the females dominated the chart (like took all yearly top 10 spaces), but usually those top 3 positions were occupied by artists like hikki, ayu, or mai, misia, ringo, momosu, etc (esp hikki and ayu).

So I hope that some female artists (or even a more serious male / male duo) will pound those boybands soon... (well it'll be excellent if those females will be hikki and ayu again LOL)
Koda Kumi outsell boybands. Ayumi Hamasaki most of the time still outsell boybands in album sales. Hikki too. Except for EXILE, album sales for boybands aren't particularly impressive, unlike their singles sales.
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Old 15th January 2008, 10:10 AM
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3rd week sales:

*1 111,643 コブクロ『5296』
*2 *72,027 浜崎あゆみ
*3 *70,916 MISIA
*4 *61,276 EXILE

3 week accumulated sales = 504,140

Today's daily ayu is #4..
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Old 15th January 2008, 10:30 AM
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3rd week sales:

*1 111,643 コブクロ『5296』
*2 *72,027 浜崎あゆみ
*3 *70,916 MISIA
*4 *61,276 EXILE

3 week accumulated sales = 504,140
not bad
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Old 15th January 2008, 11:52 AM
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3rd week sales:

*1 111,643 コブクロ『5296』
*2 *72,027 浜崎あゆみ
*3 *70,916 MISIA
*4 *61,276 EXILE

3 week accumulated sales = 504,140

Today's daily ayu is #4..

That'll be 2nd 2nd haiz...
I didn't know コブクロ is so good
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Old 15th January 2008, 11:54 AM
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3rd week sales:

*1 111,643 コブクロ『5296』
*2 *72,027 浜崎あゆみ
*3 *70,916 MISIA
*4 *61,276 EXILE

3 week accumulated sales = 504,140

Today's daily ayu is #4..
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Old 15th January 2008, 12:16 PM
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3rd week sales:

*1 111,643 コブクロ『5296』
*2 *72,027 浜崎あゆみ
*3 *70,916 MISIA
*4 *61,276 EXILE

3 week accumulated sales = 504,140

Today's daily ayu is #4..
Wow, GUILTY 3rd week sales is better than Secret 3rd week sales by 22000 copies.
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Old 15th January 2008, 02:04 PM
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3rd week sales:

*1 111,643 コブクロ『5296』
*2 *72,027 浜崎あゆみ
*3 *70,916 MISIA
*4 *61,276 EXILE

3 week accumulated sales = 504,140

Today's daily ayu is #4..
Not bad, not bad!
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Old 15th January 2008, 12:42 PM
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finally guilty surpass 500K..
congratz....

so close with misia..
only 2K...
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Old 15th January 2008, 02:10 PM
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i hope next week guilty can sell more than 50K.. so it will easier to reach 600K..
i think guilty cant surpass secret
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Old 15th January 2008, 03:13 PM
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Wow, Ayumi Hamasaki sold 72k of something in its third week. :O Too bad that something didn't reach #1, but whatever.
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Does anyone have like, a week by week comparison of GUILTY to secret and (m)u?
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